On 01-14-98 Frank Masingill wrote to John Boone...
Hello Frank and thanks for writing,
FM> JB> Do you not see, the fact you aren't "open to being questioned"
FM> JB> about the
FM> JB> nature of ideology is in fact an ideology, an unquestioning
FM> JB> definition of ideology?
FM> I'm open to being questioned. That is not the problem.
Yes, you are as am I, however, the question isn't about
whether one is open to being questioned, but rather about -what-
is one open to being questioned.
FM> either you acknowledge a frame of mind or approach to philosophizing
FM> in which
FM> I have followed a steady stream of people beginning with the use of
FM> the term
FM> by Destrutt de Tracy in 1796 and continuing through Marx, Engels,
FM> Lenin,
FM> Mannheim, Michels, Schumpeter, Raymond Aron, Daniel Bell and a host of
FM> others,
You appear to use these examples to show the reason why
such "systems" is the attainment of "ultimate truth." First,
some systems, don't try to imply their systems extend beyond our
bounds (the immediate earth) or even to extend perpetually, hardly
impling "ultimate truth."
Second, as I pointed out to you before, you have not addressed
my objections that -COMMANLITY (amoung the various systems)- is not
sufficient to make your point, failure.
IOW, you have listed these -failed- "systems" with a common
theme being "some ultimate truth" to prove such, "ultimate truth,"
is the reason for failure. In -ANY- serious endeavor, Frank,
one MUST consider -CONFOUNDING- factors.
From Sowell's "The Vision of the Anointed:ASBFSP", a correlation
between A, in our case the failure of "systems", and B, in our
case, "ultimate truth", means 4 possible situations:
1. A caused B
2. B caused A
3. A and B are caused by C, D, E, F, etc
4. a coincidence
FM> or you assert that there IS no such approach. Is it the NAME of the
I don't believe your "either-or", "bull horn dilemma",
alternatives. Do you not see, you are trying to -argue- with
me about the -validity, truth- of your view?
Take care,
John
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