On Fri, 05 May 2017 13:14:44 +0100, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:

>  So the one that is currently the world's best Go player doesn't
> qualify ?
>
Definitely not. Just as chess programs and IBM's Watson do not - the
latter has to be trained specifically for whatever you want it to do.

I'd agree that Watson and equivalent frameworks count as Expert Systems,
but not as AIs.

Try this for size: to pass as an AI, a system must:

1) pass the Turing Test in more than one domain

2) when asked a question in a domain it has learned it must be able to
   (a)give a correct answer and (b) explain how it arrived at it

3) be able to learn how to play a game or to understand a technology by
   reading a book or manual (chess, go, C) or the game's instructions
   (monopoly, D&D)

4) be able to absorb more than one knowledge domain without getting
   confused.

Current systems can do 1 and 2a though I don't think anything can do
both, and no current neural net-based system can do 2b. AFAIK nothing
currently comes even close to tackling 3 or 4.


> How about the ones that generate pictures based on a short
> description ?
>
Can any make Celia Russell style word pictures? That should be quite easy
since the word is part of the picture:

http://www.russellart.co.nz/Cecilia_Russell_ART._NZ._russellart.co.nz.html


> Or the ones that learn languages and are currently being
> used to try and learn dolphin language ?
>
Are these just neural networks or something better and more flexible?

> Passing a Turing test calls for either something designed for
> conversation or an artificial general intelligence.
>
Quite and IMHO thats what the term should be reserved for.

> There's an odd thing about AI - every time some goal for AI
> development is reached there's a bunch of people explaining why the
> solution wasn't really AI just something else (Machine Learning is a
> popular name at the moment).
>
I'd reverse that and say that whenever somebody has a new product that
just a phrase->action mapper Siri, Alexa) or something a bit more
interesting but that still can't explain how it reached the answer it
gave, some idiot marketeer still calls it an AI.


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