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to: RICH GRIEBEL
from: RD THOMPSON
date: 1998-01-12 15:13:00
subject: Re: Home Security

Hi RICH, as you were just saying about Re: Home Security....
RG> RG>> We don't drill to semi-aim, we drill to hit the target.  A loose
RG> RG>> round can do some serious damage to a bystander.  Profile, target,
RG> RG>> double tap, move, profile, target, double tap, move, until you're
RG> RG>> back under cover.
RG> 
RG>  RT> True.
RG> 
RG> RG>> Now the average citizen wouldn't have to play by those rules.
RG> 
RG>  RT> Also true.  However, the average citizen still has the 
esponsibility
RG>  RT> for any bystanders caught by his/her rounds.
RG> 
RG> Yep, but the "standard" for trained law enforcement is different
RG> then the standard that is set for Joe Citizen.  Which means Joe 
RG> Citizen that could shoot better then I (and there are a bunch of
RG> them out there) even with training records and such, wouldn't be
RG> held to the same standard I am.
I assume that you mean the standard of public opinon.  I know of no
difference in the law.
 
RG> RG>> Not being a firearms expert, I'm not up on the pre/post ban stuff,
RG> RG>> but I know there's a lot of 15 round magazines at gun shows that
RG> RG>> were produced pre ban. They (dealers) are selling them with the BATF
RG> RG>> in the same  building so I'd guess you can still buy them.  Using
RG> RG>> them is another matter.
RG> 
RG>  RT> Yes, they are there.  My original statement was simply that I did 
ot
RG>  RT> feel that I would be in a situation where I would need them (or the
RG>  RT> possible accompaning legal hassle).  I felt that I could proved
RG>  RT> defensive capability for myself and others when I am carrying 
ithout
RG>  RT> them.
RG> 
RG> Best defense capability is what we call the "Bates" defense.  When
RG> out gunned, or low on rounds, use them Bates shoes we were to get
RG> the hell out of the line of fire.
Exactomundo!!
RG> I have the last mag rule.  With 46 rounds, one chambered and three
RG> 15 round mags. If I get down to the last mag, it's bates time :)
For me it is sneaker and heels time as soon as the opportunity
presents itself and no one that I am responsible for is in immediate
danger.  If I am alone, the second consideration doesn't count. :^)
RG> We just tried out the new version of the Baretta Model 92.  It has
RG> 4 8 round mags in the belt holder and one in the weapon.  It's nice
RG> bacause it's lighter to carry.  But I have one major problem,
RG> because of the size of the grip, and my large hands, my trigger
RG> finger wraps around and releases  the magazine when I squeeze the
RG> trigger.  So when I tested it, it was bang, release, dang; bang,
RG> release, dang... 
Oh well, you could throw the mag at them.  Think of the speedloading
possibilities when you can eject the mag with either hand.  :^)
RD 
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