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to: MAURICE KINAL
from: NICHOLAS BOEL
date: 2016-11-03 07:49:00
subject: Re: Harddisk problem

Hello Maurice,

On 02 Nov 16 23:42, Maurice Kinal wrote to Nicholas Boel:

 NB>> I also started diving into distributions for the RPi3 (should be
 NB>> arriving on Friday).

 MK> Sounds like your about to start having way too much fun.  There ought
 MK> to be a law.

For the first time in awhile, I'm actually a little excited to start a new
tinkering project. :)

 NB>> Most of them don't even utilize ARM64 yet.

 MK> That sounds about right.  Also seems to be some resistance although I
 MK> don't understand why one would want a 64 bit SoC without the 64 bit
 MK> OS.

I know, right? Maybe not so much resistance, but for some reason it seems
progress is a lot slower than it normally would be, even if it's only
enthusiasts working on it.

 NB>> ODROID-C2, but not the RPi3 at the moment.

 MK> That sounds weird given they are both cortex-a53 based.  Did they say
 MK> why this should be so?

I'm not sure exactly why. The only thing I could come up with is the Pi3 is a
Broadcom chip, and the OD-C2 is a Amlogic chip. Maybe there's some differences
in that? Although that wouldn't seem to be that big of a hinderance, but I'm
not one to have an opinion on that since I have no idea what kind of code
differences it would take to decypher between the two. This is noted under
Pi3's installation instructions:

"Note: The current installation uses the 32-bit Raspberry Pi 2 armv7h root
filesystem. This will be changing eventually to use our AArch64 repository to
take full advantage of the ARMv8 Cortex-A53 cores. If you want an AArch64
system, consider the ODROID-C2."

Though browsing the forum the other day, I seemed to catch progress, where
people were testing and things were working.. so hopefully they keep the ball
rolling and we see something useful directly for the Pi3 soon.

 NB>> This is going to become more of a project that I thought it was,

 MK> :-)  That sounds par for the course.  Nontheless at the very least you
 MK> should have no issues booting the supplied 32 bit enviroment in the
 MK> meantime.

Supplied? I don't believe the kit I got comes with a microSD card, so I'll have
to track down any OS I wish to use myself. All part of the fun!

 NB>> as I'm going to try to get AARM64 working on the RPi3 using the
 NB>> general instructions. :)

 MK> Which general instructions?  So far the best I can do is the
 MK> crosstools-ng and the cross compiler build script I am playing with at
 MK> the moment.  Beats me if either of them will actually successfully
 MK> build a 64 bit enviroment/kernel that will REALLY work.  I am still
 MK> thinking that a custom kernel and a busybox enviroment is what I will
 MK> try first if and when I take the plunge.

I'm specifically looking at Archlinux's ARM distro. While there is no
instructions specifically for Broadcom/Pi3, there are "generic" instructions
for "ARMv8". See here:

http://archlinuxarm.org > Platforms > ARMv8 > Generic

I'll give it a shot anyways. If all else fails, I can always use the 32bit
distribution, or try another OS entirely if something like Linux Mint or
Raspbian is on the AArm64 bandwagon before Arch is.

Regards,
Nick

... "Не знаю. Я здесь только работаю."
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