NB> NB> As I told him, stats can be used to prove just about anything...
NB> NB> And I don't think he's really listening to any of us...

NB> CS> Seems not . While cesaerians my be a bit overused,
they are overall
NB> CS> saving  lives. Mother mortality rates are *way* down as opposed to say
NB> CS> 1900.

NB>Yup.  Ya know, I saw him touting a book that talks about how statistics
NB>are misused, in a different echo...  Maybe he's just playing Devils
NB>Advocate to keep a conversation going...?


Possibly.  Surely many things have changed, yunderstanding of ifection
and better sanitary conditions etc.  They all have a play here.

NB> CS> Thats a somewhat historically recent thing though. Culturally we
NB> CS> redefined  'whats too early' around mid-1800's.  Mother death rate for
NB> CS> first childbirth  went way down when we culturally decided '17 is
NB> CS> better than 14'.  Infant  mortality wasnt that different I seem to
NB> CS> recall, but the mother lived to try  again.

NB>Yes, the teenage stuff is more modern...  There does seem to have been a
NB>recent surge in the 14-16ish mothers lately, though... and those are
NB>certainly treated now as high-risk births, just because the mom is so
NB>young... with a corresponding higher risk for a possible section.


True.  One part is a girl of 14 just doesnt have the fuller hip growth
right?  That comes out in final form about 17 or so?

NB>Of course, there is a bit of a possible confusion in the conversation
NB>here... there IS a difference between any vaginal delivery, medicated
NB>and/or assisted, and a truly "natural childbirth".  As long as the


Sure.  Vaginal delivery is best whenever possible.  Less risky for the
mother.  True 'natural' I guess is without painkillers and at home?
Nothing wrong with that but if there is a complication, can be awkward
in the extreme as they may not be able to get the mother to the
hospital very fast?   I suppose it would depend on the knowledge level
of those around assisting.  A good mid-wife would presumably be able to
tell if there was a problem that needed the mother to get to the
hospital.

            xxcarol

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