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to: Michael Grant
from: Bo Simonsen
date: 2003-06-10 13:15:30
subject: Squish progress

Hello Michael!

Jun 09 22:56 03, Michael Grant wrote to Bo Simonsen:

 BS>> The Squish setup is quite simple, so we big is the need for a UI to 
 BS>> do the setup?

 MG> Yes; that's what most sysops would find handy; it makes the setup 
 MG> process much easier, and also helps a lot when you need to make some 
 MG> major changes, like changing mail feeds.

Hmmm... you might have a point there.. But it could be a commandline
command too.. fx. hpt afix 2:236/100.100 -*

 BS>> Yes i see.. but if you're a programmer you could code it, and i guess
 BS>> wes will include it in the source...

 MG> If I was a programmer, I would have been trying to create something 
 MG> like this a long time ago. Unfortunately, I am not a programmer, and 
 MG> because I am far too busy in my career as a dental technician, I 
 MG> cannot afford the time to learn how to program. 

Hmm.. of now i've 2 month of summerholiday.. 

 BS>> Do you have a link with the sources?

 MG> Yes; you can find it at the original author's (Alberto Pasquale's) 
 MG> website:
 MG> http://www.apworks.com/download.html

 MG> Peter Knapper did a minor update on Alberto's original sources, and 
 MG> released his version as NEF/pk.

Hmm.. ok :)

 BS>> Squish's setup has always been textbased, so why change it? I guess 
 BS>> the users has been very satisfied about it.

 MG> Not all have. Many find it difficult to set up and configure, and 
 MG> they turn to products like FastEcho, Gecho, or Synchronet with it's 
 MG> integrated tosser. 

I don't have that feeling the biggest problem is getting people returning
to bbses and fidonet.

 MG> As one small example, many people who 
 MG> use Squish don't even know that you can have message read buffer 
 MG> sizes of up to 256 kb, and quite often run up against the default DOS 
 MG> 16kb limit. Some sysops simply will not take the time to learn 
 MG> everything, and it is a shame, because they will miss out on what I 
 MG> feel is the best tosser out there.

There is some problems about Squish, there have more priority... Fx. squish
only have a buffer for reading files.bbs at 512 bytes.. If you're a hub it
might be a problem.

 BS>> And there is nothing wrong with HPT, i used by the most mailhubs 
 BS>> around.

 MG> Not so; many of them still use Squish and Sqafix, and at least one I 
 MG> know of is still using Gecho. I am a hub, I use it, my uplink uses 
 MG> it, and many other hubs I know of use it. I've looked at hpt, but it 
 MG> is a pain to set it all up, and I see no need for the configuration 
 MG> of a tosser to be so complicated. About the best thing it's got going 
 MG> for it is that it's stable and provides access to the Squish format 
 MG> for Linux users. Linux is not the only OS out there though.

I know so.. The most of the development on Maximus will be on the Linux
platform.. Wesley don't want to make specific changes to Maximus/2 and so
on.

 MG> That's my two cents worth. YMMV, of course...

I'm not up to the idea yet.. maybe others is?

Regards,
Bo

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