From: Chris 
Subject: Re: Using the server to connect to the internet.  Where do I start?
Date: 1999/06/17
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Have you looked into BorderManager yet?

Chris


Bridge College wrote:

> Please note:  The question is summarised in the first couple of lines of
> this posting.  After my name and e-mail address is a more detailed account
> of what we require, which is not necessary for you to read :)  Thanks for a
> response to replies to either the summary or the detailed account.  I've
> been to Novell's web site but didn't glean enough useful information off it.
>
> SUMMARY:
> We have a small NetWare 4.2 network (30 clients).  We would like to be able
> to download e-mail via the server, and give only a couple of PC's Web
> Browsing facilities.  Cost is very much a key issue.
>
> Connecting servers to the internet via a server is an entirely new area for
> me.  Can anybody point me in the right direction to start.  All I require is
> a rough idea of what is required, software, hardware, keywords to search the
> WEB with or any books worth reading.
>
> Thanks in advance for any response.
>
> Tim Banner
> bridgec.bgwsDELETEUPPERCASETEXT@virgin.net
> To reply by e-mail please delete the uppercase text from the e-mail address
> above.
>
> DETAILED - NOT REQUIRED TO READ:
> I feel it would be useful for members of staff to have their own e-mail
> addresses, and a few choice PC's to be able to access the internet.  Perhaps
> even to go as far as to allow staff to use the databases, documents etc from
> home.  We are currently running a NetWare 4.2 server with 30 client license.
> Cost is a problem as we are a education charity.  On this basis it would
> appear that the e-mail is the only realistic option.
>
> In a vain attempt not to make this posting too long winded here is a rough
> idea of what I think would be required for e-mail only:
>
> Connection Hardware:
> If we are talking about e-mail only then a 56Kb modem should do.  The way I
> perceive the situation is that every couple of hours the server connects to
> the ISP, downloads all the e-mails.  After collecting the e-mails it
> distributes them to the user accounts.  When a user logs onto their e-mail,
> they get their mail from their account on the server.  But like I said above
> I know very little if not nothing about this field, so I don't know if this
> is the correct method.  If this is the case then I assume it would be much
> cheaper to run a standard modem on a standard phone line.
>
> Server Software:
> Novell Internet Access Server 4.1?  I'm not quite sure what this allows the
> server to do, i.e. just connect, download e-mail, will workstations require
> extra software to use it?  .  I'm still currently reading the online manual.
> GroupWise.  Again I'm not quite sure what it does.  Is this Novell's
> equivalent to Microsoft Exchange Server?
>
> Client Software:
> Internet Explorer 4/5.  Outlook Express.  Why?  Because they are free to
> commercial organisations.  Or alternately GroupWise.
>
> ISP:
> Do you require a different account type when connecting to an ISP for
> multiple users via a server, instead of one PC, one phone line, one account?
> More importantly do you require a different e-mail type.  Or could we
> continue using our current ISP's e-mail?  A standard POP3/SMTP e-mail
> downloaded no different to the standard PC at home.  Can a server download
> e-mail from different accounts, with their own unique passwords and
> usernames?  Or do they download a domain name e.g. xxxxxxxx@acme.org.uk in
> one go, and then the server sends the messages to the users depending on
> what the xxxxxxxx was.
>
> If you've got this far, thanks for your patients.  I'm not necessarily after
> huge amounts of information as I can imagine this is a very large subject.
> I'm more so after pointers in the right direction, although obviously I
> would be very grateful for as much information as possible (a contradiction
> in terms there? :)    ).  If this was NT4 I could say OK I'll start with:
> Networking essential, then NT4, TCP/IP, Exchange Server and try and get a
> MCSE on the way :)  Unfortunately it doesn't appear that easy for NetWare.
> The reading material that I've covered upto date is only:  Introduction to
> NetWare Directory Services, Installation and Upgrade, Supervising the
> Network books 1 and most of 2, Print Services and some of the Utilities
> Reference, all books are the Novell standard manuals.  (Not bad for somebody
> who just happens to have the server in their office :)    ).
>
> Again thanks in advance for any response given, and getting this far.
>
> Tim Banner
> bridgec.bgwsDELETEUPPERCASETEXT@virgin.net
> To reply by e-mail please delete the uppercase text from the e-mail address
> above.