Dave Symn (DSymnpathy{at}yahoo.comnope) writes:
> On 25 Mar 2005 19:32:33 GMT, Andre Lieven wrote:
>
>> Dave Symn (DSymnpathy{at}yahoo.comnope) writes:
>>> On 25 Mar 2005 07:50:05 -0800, greg1199{at}yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Andre Lieven wrote:
>>>>> "Society" (Society{at}feminism.is.invalid) writes:
>>>>>> Those who need this hint know who they are!
>>>> [...]
>>>>>> "lukne" 
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>>>>>>
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>>>> [...]
>>>>> Sure, and we can easily see the same right now. How
>>>>> many media outlets are reporting on the folly of
>>>>> guarding an over 6 foot ex linebacker with a 5 foot
>>>>> grandmother, V/ all the attention given to the female
>>>>> hostage who " calmed " the perp after that start ?
>>>>
>>>> The most ridiculous part was when that cowed ninny gave a press
>>>> conference saying, "Women can do whatever men can do."
>>>
>>> A better and more accurate way to put that might be,
"Women can sometimes
>>> do whatever men can do, except produce sperm, and men can sometimes do
>>> whatever women can do, except give birth" but thats not
very marketable.
>>
>> That'd be nice and PC, but the simple record of " equality
" says that
>> thats not true. Women cannot outplay men in any sport, they cannot outwork
>> men in any physical field of endeavour, so the facts make hash out of this
>> longer form.
>
> some women can outplay some men in some sports,

So, how come no women in sport, want to play a championship against
their sport's mens teams... ?

> altho it may well be an uncommon thing.

No, its a greatly uncommon thing. If it were common, women's teams
would *demand* to play championships against their sport's mens teams.

Look at the Feminist try to " integrate " the Augusta golf club. Did
they offer to *give up* the one sex only LPGA ? Nope !

> same thing about the outworking.

No proof offered ? Claim fails.

>>> In this particular case, the folly was not in the giving the guard duty
>>> to a female, but, giving the guard duty to a small, older, presumably
>>> physically weak person.
>>
>> That the NYFD didn't lower it's working standards, thus they got almost
>> no women firefighters, speaks for itself. Women cannot compete in many,
>> many areas, with men. Its folly and fiction to suggest otherwise.
>>
>
> that doesnt change the fact that Brian Nichols overpowered the guard not
> becuase it was female, but because it was small and weak and old.

AND female... Whihc *is why* that guard was " small and weak and old. "

> Same
> kinda man in the same situation, might have gotten his head punched in
> like a beachball, too.

But, remove " affirmative action ", and employers would be free to use
the *right kinds of people as guards*. There'd be none of this nonsense
of " small women can do what big and capable men do " crap.

> all said and done, if i'm sick and in the hospital, i'd rather have a
> female nurse, than a male one.

Well then, you're a sexist. Me, I'd want the best nurse, no matter
their sex. Period. And, as nursing doesn't routinely demand that
it's practicioners be linebackers, then a female nurse doesn't worry
be a bit. The same for a male nurse.

But, when it comes to guards... then yes, size and *power* does
count.

> maybe thats some kinda psychological problem on my part,

No " maybe " about it...

> but hey, there it is.

OK: You're *biased* against some men. Got it.

> On the other hand, if my car is broken, i dont go looking for a
"gestator".

Good, so you're not totally biased...

> I look for a car repair shop and lo and
> behold! 99.9999999999999999999999% of them are male owned and operated.

Why do you suppose that is so ? Could it be that men both can do the
jobs, and are willing to put up with the discomforts that, say, the
female dominated job of teacher doesn't have to ?

> The one i've been to that was supposedly female owed and operated, had
> guy mechanics in the back doing the work.

Of course; Its easy to wear a smock and take keys in. Its another to
actually fix a car. When I go to car shops, the only place I see
women in, is in the front desk, key taking smocks.

Andre

--
" I'm a man... But, I can change... If I have to... I guess. "
                                    The Man Prayer, Red Green.


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