(greg1199{at}yahoo.com) writes:
> Andre Lieven wrote:
>> "Society" (Society{at}feminism.is.invalid) writes:
>> > Those who need this hint know who they are!
> [...]
>> > "lukne"  wrote in message
>> > news:1111636206.671309.208160{at}g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> [...]
>> Sure, and we can easily see the same right now. How
>> many media outlets are reporting on the folly of
>> guarding an over 6 foot ex linebacker with a 5 foot
>> grandmother, V/ all the attention given to the female
>> hostage who " calmed " the perp after that start ?
>
> The most ridiculous part was when that cowed ninny gave a press
> conference saying, "Women can do whatever men can do."

I missed that one, and the appropriate answer to that inanity,
would be: " If thats so, why did the woman guard utterly fail to
guard her charge ? Had *she done her job*, four people wouldn't
be... dead. "

> One wanted to put
> his head in the screen and say, "Actually, sir, they can't, and the
> courtroom firefight you've just witnessed is a clear demonstration."

Indeed.

> [...]
>
>> Indeed. How many women died, storming Omaha Beach,
>> again ?
>
> Or Juno Beach.  Or any of the beaches.  I wonder if Martha Burke would
> have held a protest demanding more female participation in the biggest
> amphibious assault ever.

I'd love to see that: No boats for her, get out of my ocean !

> [...]
>> > Thank you, lukne, for your intention to show
>> > some good will toward men.  When you turn
>> > that intention into action, your action will be
>> > appreciated even more.
>
> Yes it will.  I hope he goes, and I hope he tell us how it was.

I won't hold my breath, though...

> [...]
>
>> Sure. But, its easy to spout such offerings on Usenet,
>> and quite another thing to ever do any such thing.
>
> I think men rise to the occasion, though.  The men at Normandy were
> elite troops, but there were millions of ordinary men who, after two
> weeks of boot camp, went to Europe or Asia and performed extreme acts
> of bravery.  I believe most men, if put to battle, would come out
> swinging.

Of course, because we can and we understand when we have to. Women
fail the first part, making the second part moot.

For more on that, I recommend " Women In The Military; Flirting
With Disaster ", by Brian Mitchell, and " The Kinder Gentler
Military; Can America's Gender-Neutral Fighting Force Still
Win Wars ? " by Stephanie Gutmann. Both say no.

> [...]
>> Quite. Such historical facts were not to be shown
>> in an MSM film depiction, especially one whose
>> purpose was to attract more women/girls into the
>> theatres...
>
> Indeed, women fawned profusely over that film.  I wonder if the reality
> of it would have lead to so much fawning.

Exactly. It was a feminised film, no question. Earlier, pre-Feminisation
films about it, told the story, and ranged among many characters, which
were all actual people on the ship, and stuck to social situations that
were possible at that time. The 1997 epic flopthing did neither.

> This is why I didn't see it.  First, I knew they wouldn't show the
> reality of it.  Second, I already knew the ending.

 I saw it on the tube, and I rather liked the depiction of the
sinking, it was fairly true to what we know now. Beyond that...


>> > And there is an account of a suffragette
>> > activist who scolded the women survivors
>> > of the Titanic catastrophe for not being
>> > as willing as the men to give up places
>> > on the lifeboats so that others might live.
>> > Her words were considered scandalous
>> > by other women AND she wasn't on board
>> > the Titanic that fateful night either.  Words
>> > are cheap, as (sigh) feminists demonstrate
>> > all too often.  It was a woman who taught me
>> > she is NOT what she says, she is what she DOES.
>>
>> Spot on.
>
> There's no way she would have been so passionate about her beliefs as
> the boat beneath her was sinking into the icy North Atlantic. "Oh..
> um... maybe traditionalism isn't so bad after all."

Exactly. Feminism is all about more goodies for women, without the
nasty old icky real equality of effort, work, and blood sweat and
tears.

> [...]

Andre


--
" I'm a man... But, I can change... If I have to... I guess. "
                                    The Man Prayer, Red Green.


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