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from: `avenger` me{at}avengers.Co
date: 2005-03-27 04:47:00
subject: Re: Education Policy In the US

Give up Mark you're arguing with an idiot.

It's best to just put a dunce cap on her head and make her sit in the
corner:o)






"Mark Sobolewski"  wrote in message
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> In article ,
>  "Hyerdahl"  wrote:
>
> > peoplesim wrote:
> > > mark_sobolewski{at}yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > > > Indeed.  And it's the private sector supplying them. 
Decent public
> > > > schools, when they are available, come at a huge cost
> > > > in the form of property taxes that make it more difficult
> > > > for the middle class.
> > >
> > > Not only that, despite skyrocketing house prices and property
> > > tax revenue, municipalities still can't keep their school
> > > districts funded. Since taxes are rising much faster than
> > > inflation + population growth, insufficient funds can't be
> > > the reason for this problem.
> > >
> > > Another problem is the constant harping on "class size" as a
> > > panacea for scholastic excellence, when it's really about
> > > expanding union membership. In the private sector, an employee
> > > who demanded more pay and less work would get laughed out of
> > > the office, yet teacher's unions agitating for smaller class
> > > sizes mysteriously retain respectability.
> >
> > I don't really think the problem is smaller class size per se.  Schools
> > need to be run more like businesses.  :-)  I know Mark will like this.
>
> Indeed.  Since businesses largely are voluntary and non
> taxpayer funded enterprises. :-)
>
> Also, one problem may be the lack of "diversity":
> There are few men teachers.  Perhaps discrimination by
> female teachers and administrator is to blame? :-)
>
> > Basically, one teacher can control four classes while the other three
> > teachers do pull out programs.  I've seen this work in Utah schools.
> > It's a team approach, allowing all of the teachers to do what they do
> > best, serving the needs of each student who may learn in a different
> > way from each other.    The other way to accomplish the same thing is
> > to make sure each teacher has an aide.
>
> By "pull out programs" are you talking about "special ed?"
>
> And how are you talking about pull out programs as somehow
> making a school system more "businesslike?"
>
> regards,
> Mark Sobolewski




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