On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:36:26 -0500, Mark Sobolewski
 wrote:

>In article ,
> "Hyerdahl"  wrote:
>> Mark Sobolewski wrote:


>> Had Powell run, for
>> example, I would have been able to vote Republican.  :-)
>
>Unfortunately for you, saavy republicans know he's 
>swings very far to the left.  Instead, he's been used
>for publicity purposes very effectively and sat
>around at the State department.



Interestingly enough, Colin Powell and his five stars stood squarely
in FAVOR of the military's ban on open homosexuals from military
service, back when Slick Willie challenged that ban in 1993.

Even more interestingly enough, the military gay-ban has more of an
effect on WOMEN than on MEN - for reasons that seem obvious, lesbians
are more interested in military careers than are gay men (3x as many
lesbians expelled from the military than gay men).

http://www.isteve.com/lesvsgay.htm

And yet Puke says that she would VOTE for Colin Powell.  Maybe Puke is
becoming a "bigoted fundy anti-feminist sexist homophobe".




>Think about it: Michael Moore, a very clever propogandist with
>a huge budget and the backing of Hollywood couldn't stop
>GW even with a bad economy and two wars going on.  A small
>bunch of "stupid" vets who merely threw up some footage
>of Kerry verbally spitting on his fellow soldiers
>made a far greater impact.
>
>Think about it.  



Oh, come on!  That's TWICE that you've said "Think about it"

Look who you're talking to, for crying out loud.



>> Kerry seems to me a
>> very good man, but then Jimmy Carter was a good man and he didn't get
>> two terms.



Interesting argument coming from a woman who does not believe that
there is any such thing as a good man.



>
>Bush and Reagan were often compared to "Forrest Gump", a character
>who stumbled his way into success.  




>> > Say what you like about W (and you will :-) but
>> > he genuinely makes an outreach for women and
>> > minority voters (some say too much even) without
>> > insulting his base.



He insulted ME!  I left.



>> Bush does what he does in order to make the rich richer; 
>
>Yeah, such as tax breaks for the middle class.  
>(You know, Clinton's "millionaires" he pledged not to tax.)
>
>Let's discuss this: Bush Sr. made a critical error by
>raising taxes against his promise (and later having congress 
>raise spending anyway) and then creating a harsh recession.  He
>caved in and the left hung him out to dry.
>
>The right could have done what the left did for Clinton:
>Stood by him just to get him re-elected.  They didn't.
>This was VERY VERY smart.
>
>Clinton, promised to raise taxes only on millionaires
>and people bought it.  He won reelection only because
>of Dole being an extraordinarily lousy candidate and
>moderate.  He was "beltway" through and through.



Jeff MacNelly actually was the only man in America to tell the TRUTH
about why Clinton was re-elected.  At least, I THINK that it was
MacNelly.

He drew a political cartoon showing war hero Bob Dole (his arm in a
sling) waiting faithfully at the altar with a ring in his hand, but
the American woman voter rode off with Slick Willie on his motorcycle
instead.



>
>Apple computer relocated many of it's jobs from California
>to Texas for tax reasons.  To tell you the truth, 
>I just remember Schwartzeneggar bemoaning jobs
>leaving California.  Apparently, the voters agree with
>him, yes?
>
>Oh, oh oh oh oh oh!
>
>I just remembered something!  You were saying before
>that you think that things people did in the past
>should remind there once they gain public office.
>(For example, Clinton sexually harassing or raping women).
>So you said it was ok to try to have Arnold denied office out
>for far lesser offenses but once in office it didn't matter.
>
>That said, now that Arnold is in office, his father's
>supposed nazi past is irrelevent now, now, eh?  
>All in the past...



On the other hand, Scott McClellan (assistant White House press
secretary) recently refused to comment on the question of whether he
agreed with HIS father who has written a book claiming that LBJ,
Richard Nixon, and J. Edgar Hoover attended a gathering at Clint
Murchison's house on November 21, 1963 and plotted to off JFK.

They must have made an  interesting gathering.  I wonder if Nikita
Khrushchev dropped by later and served vodka.




>> Men are still oppressing Afghan women because Bush wanted to wage war
>> in Iraq.  



Is THAT what she's saying?

But I thought that "Even in Afghanistan..."



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