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from: `kate` kcourtesan{at}yahoo.
date: 2005-03-25 21:02:00
subject: Re: Boys or Girls -- Pick Your Victim

Michael Snyder wrote:
> "Ben"  wrote in message
> news:1111675176.492351.160880{at}o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > E/C Annie wrote:
> > > Dustbin wrote:
> > > > kate wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > What percentage of those boys deaths are due to auto
accidents?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > And what is this about men being dangerous
> > > > drivers. That is little more than standard
> > > > feminist propaganda output. Men are already
> > > > known to be better drivers than females.
> > > >
> > > > D.
> > > 2001 Chart data:
> > > Young driver fatalities:
> > > Male - 2611; Female - 997
> > >
> > > Young drivers involved in fatal accidents:
> > > Male - 5766; Female - 2371
> > >
> > > The above charts show involvement in fatal crashes and driver
> > > fatalities for young drivers (age 15-20) in year 2001, the most
> > recent
> > > year for which data is available.
> > >
> > > While young females are less likely to be involved in fatal car
> > crashes
> > > than their male counterparts, it is worth noting that these
numbers
> > are
> > > beginning to even out. While the percentage of young male drivers
> > > killed in car crashes decreased 3% from 1991 to 2001, this
category
> > saw
> > > a 15% increase among young females during the same timespan.
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.safeparents.com/teenage_driving_info_stats/teen_car_crashes_gender.php
> > >
> > > annie
> >
> >
> > I think I remember reading something to the effect that raw numbers
of
> > accidents alone might not tell an accurate story, because male
drivers
> > in that age range spend much more time driving than do the females.
 If
> > the comparison was made on a per mile or per hour basis (I don't
recall
> > which was used), then the females did slightly worse than the
males.
> > But I think this was for accidents in general, not necessarily
fatals
> > alone.
>
> Young men take part in more risk-taking behavior, and this of course
> results in a certain number of casualties.  To use this as an
argument
> that boys don't deserve any sympathy is pathetic, though, especially
> in light of the fact tha the original subject was scholastic
achievement
> and disadvantage.

Show me where I said they don't deserve sympathy - or that we don't
have a boy crisis! I am saying that the statistics sited carry with
them implications that have nothing to do with the so-called "gender
war". As for instigating men to commit acts of violence - I see no
statistical evidence that women generally do this. I'm not even going
to bother to answer the on-record misogynists who continually blame
women for everything. There are too many of them in soc.men and I don't
have the time.
I need to get ready to go out now.

Kate



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