-=> Quoting Ivy Iverson to Fred Austin <=-
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 -=> On 01-18-98  00:21, Fred Austin said to Ivy Iverson,<=-
 -=>"About Genuine?...,"<=-
 -=> Quoting Ivy Iverson to Fred Austin <=-
 
   Hi Ivy,
 FA> As for telling genuine
 FA> from fake, that could be difficult unless there is something about
 FA> the properties of the material in question that is beyond our means
 FA> to construct, and that is left up to the scrutiny of physicists
 FA> etc....
 II> 
 II> There was one strange thing mentioned by the alleged eye witnesses
 II> about that beam: It had very light weight... (a couple of ounces?) 
 II> From the sound of it, it weighed less than aluminum, titanium or any
 II> other metals or alloys, more like balsa wood, yet it had great
 II> strength.  And then there was "foil," that could be easily wadded up,
 II> and "unwadded" itself without so much as a wrinkle.  That almost sounds
 II> like some of the modern plastics... 50 years later.   Hmmm...
    This concerns  the Roswell  fragments no  doubt.  My  only thought 
really  on  this  is  we as  the public  are not  always aware  of new 
materials.  Perhaps this material was new,  poly-rubber compound  with 
the mentioned properties.  And that does sound like what would be used 
in  a  balloon.   All  light weight  materials.  As  described by  the 
accounts.   The  foil may  have been  a rubber  with a  tin foil  type 
covering etc, and does unfold etc..  The lightweight of everything  for 
example I find retracts from a story of a spacecraft  per se,  I would 
think metal is still metal, by physics at least, and  should serve  in 
the construction of a vehicle.  Yet these materials  were tossed  into 
the trunk of a car etc..  No problem handling it.   Of course  I could 
say perhaps this was only a  small piece,  and the  rest of  the craft 
etc, crashed (allegedly) somewhere else, which actually has been added 
to the story via a Mr. Kaufman.  I am not a big supporter of  Roswell, 
as interesting and fascinating as it sounds, I  find it  has too  many 
loopholes, and wrong behavior for an incident that if real  would have 
certainly gotten really out of hand....
 FA> I would point out though his credibility is not
 FA> very high, in theory all things could be possible, but let us just
 FA> say, that it is currently doubtful that element 115 could exist or
 FA> does exist.
 II> 
 II> Could exist?  Possible.  Does exist, (natural OR made by technology)?
 II> I wouldn't disregard the possibility.  Who knows what comes out of a
 II> star going super-Nova?  Or is there a limit to the size of a black
 II> hole... what happens/is produced when one of them blows up or whatever
 II> happens if/when they can no longer remain blask holes... if they ever
 II> end? For that matter, by definition, NOTHING escapes a B.H., but jets
 II> of material do escape out the poles... Could these jets contain super-
 II> heavy elements?  These are questions that we can only theorize the
 II> answers to... for now.  But in 1,000 years?  Or another technology?
     There  are  always  possibilities,  science  progresses   in  many 
directions.  On the practical side, one may never find out  concerning 
the above as one may not survive being near such  a space  event as  a 
super nova.  We may  of course  find new  technologies or  discoveries 
which may allow us a new approach to space travel.  Perhaps there is a 
way to cut corners so to speak and reduce the  travel time.   Our real 
adversary is time.  Not distance.........
 II> possible that another science - another technology - has discovered a
 II> way to manufacture this heavy element in sufficent quantities for such
 II> an application, and I also consider the POSSABILITY that such an
 II> element MIGHT be usable for powering a craft which has performance like
 II> UFOs are allegedly capable of.
    
    Assuming  there  is a  need for  a heavier  element and  of course 
assuming it has the properties needed  for space  travel etc..   It is 
just speculation.  Do not  put much  weight on  Mr. Lazar's  115 tale.
If there was truth to it, Mr. Lazar would have disappeared a long time 
ago....
 II> Those among us who are educated KNOW that we are not, and never were,
 II> "the center of the universe!"  That was the view up until the dark
 II> ages, but the invention of the telescope allowed it to be disproved. 
 II> (The Catholic Church took a few hundred years to accept the fact).
    I  use  the  term  loosely,  I  mean egotistically.   We are  self 
centered...
 II> Quite right!  Our technology is growing at an exponential rate, just
 II> like the population, (and we need it to be able to feed those
 II> exploding numbers with all the starvation, apparently being hastened by
 II> El Nino). 
 FA> What will be in 1000, none can say. Will we reach the stars. I think
 
    Well Ivy, I would like to  think we  will feed  the starving,  but 
something tells me we won't.  We had the technology to do so  30 years 
ago.  But our world is governed by certain  structures etc,  a certain 
attitude etc,  as I  said we  are self  centered. We  can bask  on the 
beach, eat  up resources,  while millions  starve.  Our  world is  not 
balanced by any means.  But we may one day really  do something  about 
it....
Happy Trails,
Fred.
 Internet: Fred.Austin@juxta.mn.pubnix.net   
           Fred.Austin@sphinx.hughestech.com 
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