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to: Paul Hayton
from: mark lewis
date: 2016-02-27 11:00:28
subject: Hum..

27 Feb 16 15:26, you wrote to me:

 ml>> ok, got my key updated but it is really weird that pgp shows the new
 ml>> items at the top of the list and gpg shows them at the bottom where
 ml>> they're likely to be missed... hummm...

 PH> Not sure about this...

 PH> When I tried to import your PGP key into gpg4win it borked and did not
 PH> like it. I'll try it again now.

 PH> [time passes]

 PH> what I am trying to suck in won't work and it says it's a cert without
 PH> a user ID.

i did have to use --allow-non-selfsigned-uid when i imported my public
keyring but my keys are signed by myself...

 PH> I'll keep trying but for now I seem unable to progress setting up a
 PH> public certificate entry in my software for you.

i don't know... i certainly am not going to pay someone to certify that i
am who i say i am... in the same way as i won't pay for advertising my
products... i prefer word of mouth... it is more trustworthy ;)

 PH> [time passes]

 PH> I found an entry for waldo kitty with a key ID of B60C20C5 but it won't
 PH> import. There are other entries for Mark Lewis but it's unclear which if
 PH> any are yours.

that key id is mine... there are numerous ids associated with it... here's
what it looks like from pgp 2.6.2... notice how the wkitty42{at}gmail.com
address is listed first followed by "domain alltel.net is dead"
which is then followed by the dead wkitty42{at}alltel.net address... sure, i
could remove those dead ids but then folks who know me by them wouldn't be
able to use them to contact me... by doing it this way, we can send a
message to use another id and why... possibly later those old ids may be
removed but the preference it not to remove them... maybe i need to sign
that new gmail.com id? hummm...

===== snip =====
Key ring: 'x:\pgp\pubring.pgp', looking for user ID "0xb60c20c5".
Type bits/keyID    Date       User ID
pub  1024/B60C20C5 1992/11/30 waldo kitty 
                              domain alltel.net is dead
                              waldo kitty 
                              mlewis{at}wpusa.dynip.com
                              domain *.cssnet.sanford.nc.us is dead.
                              Mark Lewis 
                              waldo kitty 
                              Mark Lewis 
1 matching key found.
===== snip =====


so now look at how gpg lists the ids...

===== snip =====
$ gpg --list-keys 0xb60c20c5
pub   1024R/B60C20C5 1992-11-30
uid                  waldo kitty 
uid                  mlewis{at}wpusa.dynip.com
uid                  domain *.cssnet.sanford.nc.us is dead.
uid                  Mark Lewis 
uid                  waldo kitty 
uid                  Mark Lewis 
uid                  waldo kitty 
uid                  domain alltel.net is dead
===== snip =====

i don't know why gpg lists those at the bottom of the stack instead of at
the top... i added them with pgp on the pgp system and then exported them
again... maybe i need to remove them from my gpg rings, export them from
pgp again and import them again?

)\/(ark

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