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>JM - Steven, there are six main "sex" scenes, and constant
talk and mentio=
n
of the act, in NATURE OF THE BEAST (no initial "THE," please).

Of course.  The problem with the "Nature of the Beast" (no
initial "the" in= side the quotation
marks, but outside, I'll use the definite article as I please) was that I
s= tarted to read it,
but got tired clicking through all the chapters to get to where I had left
= off.  I suggested an
index page, and lo and behold it appeared.  Some time later, I read more,
b= ut soon realized
that I missed some chapters, so I've started from the beginning.  Therefore=
, the first sex
scene sticks in my mind (as does the "equinoid" species doing the
evil deed=
).  I should
read it all the way through, but I have to limit my intake.  It's not the
p= rose, it's white text
on a black background.  I'm reading "Dark Horizon" too, so I'm
getting a do= uble whammy
of that white text on black background bit (oh, for Gary's nice peach
backg= round or good
old white).

Perhaps I should read the "Cotillion" and see what the fuss is about.

As for sex and Star Trek, yeah, sex is a part of the human experience, but
= I just would
feel uncomfortable taking my characters and describing in detail a sexual
e= ncounter.
I did this once, in 1979 in a story called "The Other Side of the
Galaxy" (= a ship preimagines
Voyager and goes to the Delta Quadrant, and anticipating that they would
ne= ver return, well,
things happen and two members of the crew get carried away).  The sex scene=
 did not fit in,
and even now, I get a little unsettled reading it (although the description=
 is rather tame).
It just doesn't seem like a part of Trek, so in "Pursuit or
Capture," I am = still uncertain how
far to go in the scene between Matsubara and Thorpe.  I like Garry's idea
o= f stepping over
"closing the door" to the "aftermath" scene.  Anyway,
it's not as if I'm sq= ueamish about
sex or anything.  I've written lots of sex scenes in other stories, because=
 it seems like
the kind of thing people in rock bands do, and in some other stories
writte= n mostly in the
80's.  Maybe that's why I kind of glossed over in my mind the other sex
sce= nes in the
"Nature of the Beast," and focused on the initial scene because
it was basi= cally a rape
scene.

I don't anticipate writing sex scenes in my stories, but if they're there,
= I'll read them and
decide myself if they fit into the story or not.  Of course, I do have
Hiro= shi Matsubara
of the "Alexandria" stories and his hobby of bedding down alien
women, but = even there,
I don't think I'd describe in detail his encounters.  If any character in
S= teve-Trek could
get the erotica treatment, it would be him, since that has become his
reput= ation.  By
the way, if anything, Matsubara is underendowed.

Steve
The Universe Unbounded.

Visit "Star Trek: Athena" at http://ussathena.iwarp.com

Soon to be blocked by Internet smut filter... NOT! By the way,
"Traitor's Son (Part Two)" is now posted. for those who read th=
e first part
and want to see how it ends.




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>JM - Steven, there are six main "sex" scenes,
and constant talk and
mentionof the act, in NATURE OF THE BEAST (no initial
"THE," please).
 
Of course.  The problem
with the "Nature of
the Beast" (no initial "the" inside the
quotation
marks, but outside, I'll use the
definite article
as I please) was that I started to read it,
but got tired clicking through all
the chapters to
get to where I had left off.  I suggested an
index page, and lo and behold it
appeared. 
Some time later, I read more, but soon realized
that I missed some chapters, so
I've started from
the beginning.  Therefore, the first sex
scene sticks in my mind (as does
the "equinoid"
species doing the evil deed).  I should
read it all the way through, but I
have to limit
my
intake.  It's not the prose, it's white text
on a black background. 
I'm reading "Dark
Horizon" too, so I'm getting a double whammy
of that white text on black
background bit (oh,
for
Gary's nice peach background or good
old white).
 
Perhaps I should read the
"Cotillion" and see what
the fuss is about.
 
As for sex and Star Trek, yeah,
sex is a part of
the human experience, but I just would
feel uncomfortable taking my characters and
describing in detail a sexual encounter.
I did this once, in 1979 in a
story called "The
Other Side of the Galaxy" (a ship preimagines
Voyager and goes to the Delta Quadrant, and
anticipating that they would never return, well,
things happen and two members of
the crew get
carried away).  The sex scene did not fit in,
and even now, I get a little
unsettled reading it
(although the description is rather tame).
It just doesn't seem like a part
of Trek, so in
"Pursuit or Capture," I am still uncertain how
far to go in the scene between Matsubara and
Thorpe.  I like Garry's idea of stepping over
"closing the door" to
the "aftermath" scene. 
Anyway, it's not as if I'm squeamish about
sex or anything.  I've
written lots of sex
scenes in other stories, because it seems like
the kind of thing people in rock
bands do, and in
some other stories written mostly in the
80's.  Maybe that's why I
kind of glossed
over
in my mind the other sex scenes in the
"Nature of the Beast,"
and focused on the initial
scene because it was basically a rape
scene.
 
I don't anticipate writing sex scenes in my
stories, but if they're there, I'll read them and
decide myself if they fit into the story or
not.  Of course, I do have Hiroshi Matsubara
of the "Alexandria"
stories and his hobby of
bedding down alien women, but even there,
I don't think I'd describe in detail his
encounters.  If any character in Steve-Trek could
get the erotica treatment, it
would be him, since
that has become his reputation.  By
the way, if anything, Matsubara is
underendowed.
 
Steve
The Universe
Unbounded.
 
Visit "Star Trek: Athena" at http://ussathena.iwarp.com;">http://ussathena.iwarp.comhttp://ussathena.iwarp.com">http://ussathena.iwarp.com;
 
Soon to be blocked by Internet
smut filter...
NOT!
By the way, "Traitor's Son
(Part Two)" is now
posted. for those who read the first part
and want to see how it
ends.
 







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