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to: GREG MCNEIL (CROSSPOST/ LAW)
from: BOB HIRSCHFELD
date: 1995-12-09 08:16:00
subject: Re: child in the middle

> -=> Elizabeth McCrary Commented to All about child in the middle <=-
 
> EM> I have a child from a man that was abusive and I had him locked up.
> I
> EM> wanted to know what his rights are when he gets out since he is a
> EM> threat to me as far as I am concerned.  I live in Georgia. I
> EM> appreciate any help or advice I can get.  Thanks....
 
> Well, if all  else fails:
> Grab a Gun. Get trained with it, so you can be sure to hit your target.
 
> Then, using certified letters, Notify him, and send a copy to the state
> attorney, and your local district attornys office, notifying them
> of these facts:
> 1. You consider him to be a threat to you and your child.
> 2. You will consider any action taken by him, to truspass on your
> property, to be an act that endangers your life or that of your
> childs.
> 3. That if he infact, tresspasses, you will use your right to use deadly
> force, to protect yourself and/or your child.
 
> Then, if the guy shows up with out a police escort, nail him dead.
 
> Thats what I would do.
 
If Elizabeth McCrary were to take the advice you have published, you, and 
perhaps the medium of publication, would be in jeopardy of being an accessory 
to a premeditated crime. The FidoNet LAW Echo disclaims the above-quoted 
advice of Greg McNeil.
 
I urge Ms. McCrary to seek the assistance of local authorities in ensuring 
her safety.
 
(foregoing in my capacity as Moderator)
 
However, in my personal opinion, Ms. McCrary should also consider that 
violence between herself and the child's father may be situational, and may 
not justify depriving the child of knowledge of its father, or even a 
relationship with him, should mental health professionals, detached from Ms. 
McCrary's expressed viewpoints, determine that the *child* is not endangered.
 
We have nothing to go on except Ms. McCrary's statement. It is possible that 
the father is unfit for relationship with the child. It is also possible that 
there is a quite different side to the story. I have, professioinally during 
the past decade, encountered a substantial number of domestic relations 
situations in which women have made false allegations of abuse in order to 
gain litigative advantage. The "system" tends to buy their stories 
uncritically. And then we have those who not only buy the story but who 
blindly advocate such extreme measures as does Mr. McNeil.
 
If Ms. McCrary's statement about being abused is true (and her "having put 
him in prison", given the imperfection of our justice system, is not absolute 
proof of that), she needs to assure her own safety, and determine from a 
mental health professional whether the child's safety requires complete 
isolation. Children isolated from one parent, regardless of the reason, 
sometimes idealize that absent parent, and/or have unresolved mental problems 
related to the isolation which extend into adulthood.
--- DB 1.58/004910
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* Origin: Bob Hirschfeld, Moderator, FidoNet LAW Echo (1:114/74.2)

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