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to: Ellen K.
from: Mike `/m`
date: 2002-11-20 18:46:56
subject: Re: Why can`t I read the data I pay to create? (was: Re: 2nd largest PC

From: Mike '/m' 


Then it's not on a single worksheet.

 /m

On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 15:52:20 -0800, Ellen K.
 wrote:

>Include a WHERE condition and break it down.
>
>On Sun, 17 Nov 2002 10:23:26 -0500, Mike '/m'  wrote in
>message :
>
>>
>>Only up to the 65k row limit of Excel, among other things.
>>
>>On the other hand, if they want to reach the most people, why make it
>>so difficult to get to the data?
>>
>> /m
>>
>>On Sat, 16 Nov 2002 23:43:27 -0800, Ellen K.
>> wrote:
>>
>>>If you have Excel, you should be able to use MSQuery to get the Access
>>>data anyway.
>>>
>>>On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 17:58:55 -0500, Mike '/m'
 wrote in
>>>message :
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Subsequently, they put it up as CSV files.  No Excel files were in
>>>>sight.
>>>>
>>>>Regardless, if they want to reach the most people, why not use the
>>>>version of MS Access that can reach the most people?
>>>>
>>>> /m
>>>>
>>>>On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:30:23 -0800, Ellen K.
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>That information is available as text files and I think
also as an Excel
>>>>>spreadsheet.
>>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 25 Aug 2002 21:11:09 -0400, Mike '/m'
 wrote in
>>>>>message :
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I ran into a situation with the US gov that was
similar to that
>>>>>>described by the honorable legislator in Peru.  I
wanted to download
>>>>>>some nutrition data from the USDA site. 
Unfortunately, the data was
>>>>>>in MS Access 2000 format.  My Access 97 would not
read the file.  I
>>>>>>wrote to the contact for the site and the response
I received was:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Thank you for your interest in the USDA
Nutrient Database for
>>>>>>Standard Reference.  We understand that not
everyone uses MS Access
>>>>>>2000, but chose it as a widely used package that
would provide an
>>>>>>additional service to our users...."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>In other words, ~tough luck~.  I cannot read data
that I pay my tax
>>>>>>dollars to create.   Methinks the Peruvian Congressman Edgar
>>>>>>Villanueva was on the right track when he wrote of
not placing
>>>>>>government data in the hands of a monopolist.
>>>>>>http://www.pimientolinux.com/peru2ms/villanueva_to_ms.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I note the section entitiled "Free access to
public information by the
>>>>>>citizen."    Why should I have to pay in order
to use data created
>>>>>>with my tax dollars by my government?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /m
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Mon, 19 Aug 2002 22:36:23 +0100, "Adam Flinton"
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Don't think so....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Chinese do NOT want to be dependant upon a US
company. Heck would the US
gov
>>>>>>>decide to use a Chinese OS where they could not
get the source?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It's part of a longer terms move. I don't think
the Chinese are
convinced by
>>>>>>>the RIAA/MPAA tack either. Every piece of
knowledge belongs to the
>>>>>>>people..........Linux is providing a nice
conjoining of idealogy &
>>>>>>>practicality.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Adam
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Mike '/m'" 
wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:sho2muspr2470gsu7he1n93o5cj8k7k3vd{at}4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A bigger concern is that China is where
Microsoft was looking for a
>>>>>>>> lot of growth to replace the mature PC
market here in the US and
>>>>>>>> Europe.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The China Linux project is not good news
for Microsoft.  On the other
>>>>>>>> hand, China may have its eye on the
many-multi-billion cash reserve
>>>>>>>> that Microsoft has, and wants a payout to
stay with Windows, just like
>>>>>>>> Peru.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  /m
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 19 Aug 2002 18:47:38 +0100,
"Adam Flinton"
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/26737.html
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >"In last month's report on a
Chinese effort to build a home-grown
Win98,
>>>>>>>we
>>>>>>>> >appealed for further enlightenment on
the nature of the project.
Well,
>>>>>>>it's
>>>>>>>> >taken a while, but a kindly Chinese
speaker has done some digging,
and
>>>>>>>> >reveals it's Linux-based, and GPLed.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >Thanks to the unnamed translator for
the following, and to Mark for
>>>>>>>passing
>>>>>>>> >it on. The apparent involvement of the
Taiwanese government,
alongside
>>>>>>>Linux
>>>>>>>> >International, is particularly interesting:
>>>>>>>> >"
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >Chinese inc Taiwan.......where are
lots of PC devices made again...?
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >Adam
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

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