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to: ANDREW CLARKE
from: TONY LANGDON
date: 2016-05-25 07:30:00
subject: Re: Conversion

-=> andrew clarke wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

 ac> ssh works, as well as the GNU compiler suite, rsync, Python, etc. So
 ac> it's already quite capable.

Nice. :)

 ac> AFAIK it's possible to run X11 apps under it provided you have a
 ac> working X11 server on the Windows side. You'd just tell the X11 app to
 ac> connect to localhost. Or I suppose you could have it connect to a
 ac> remote machine running X.

Yes, I couldn't see why X wouldn't work, if you had a server handy.  Installing
one on the local machine would be the most convenient.

 ac> There's still some odd quirks with it. In my experience filesystem I/O
 ac> was a bit slow, tcsh would stall on startup (fixed in a later version
 ac> of Windows 10 Insider), apt-get can't install some things completely
 ac> due to missing features in the emulated kernel. Also the Windows 10
 ac> console window is still not 100% compatible with VT102, so the console
 ac> can look a bit screwy with some Curses apps. It's a big improvement
 ac> over the console windows in Windows 7, though. And I'm sure they're
 ac> still working on all those things to improve compatibility.

Sounds like a work in progress.  Give it a year or two and it will probably be
quite nice. :)

 ac> Also, apparently you can't run server software with it. I haven't tried
 ac> that yet, so I'm not sure if this means you can't use listen() to wait
 ac> for connections, or if it just means the Linux emulation is firewalled
 ac> from the Windows side to stop apps making TCP connections to it. I
 ac> suspect the latter, and that someone will find a way around it...

I'm sure someone will find a way. ;)  Sounds like a ploy to force the use of
Microsoft servers.  Afterall, if someone could setup a LAMP stack or similar on
a Windows 10 box, there goes another sale of Windows Server. ;)  And longer
term, such an admin will one day say "Hey, I might as well use Linux", and
Microsoft does lose another customer.  Yes, I can see why they might firewall
off incoming connections.  Guess they're using some form of stateful firewall.
:)

 ac>> I suspect it will be released mainstream when included with the
 ac>> Windows 10 Anniversary Update, expected a few months from now.

 TL> I still have to install Windows 10.

 ac> I have some misgivings towards Windows 10 it but thought I'd better
 ac> have a play around just to keep up with the technology.

Yeah, I'm in the "I better upgrade so I don't get left behind" camp. :)

 ac> Ironically I've installed it on a MacBook Pro. Blasphemous, I know.
 ac> It's configured to dual boot OS X, using Boot Camp.

LOL.  


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