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to: TONY LANGDON
from: ANDREW CLARKE
date: 2016-05-25 02:59:00
subject: Conversion

24 May 16 08:32, you wrote to me:

 ac>> Also, Microsoft has recently introduced a 64-bit Linux
 ac>> binary-compatible layer to the recent Insider versions of Windows
 ac>> 10. It uses Ubuntu 14.04 for the base system, with bash as the
 ac>> default shell.

 TL> I did read about that.

It's pretty interesting.

ssh works, as well as the GNU compiler suite, rsync, Python, etc. So it's
already quite capable.

AFAIK it's possible to run X11 apps under it provided you have a working X11
server on the Windows side. You'd just tell the X11 app to connect to
localhost. Or I suppose you could have it connect to a remote machine running
X.

There's still some odd quirks with it. In my experience filesystem I/O was a
bit slow, tcsh would stall on startup (fixed in a later version of Windows 10
Insider), apt-get can't install some things completely due to missing features
in the emulated kernel. Also the Windows 10 console window is still not 100%
compatible with VT102, so the console can look a bit screwy with some Curses
apps. It's a big improvement over the console windows in Windows 7, though. And
I'm sure they're still working on all those things to improve compatibility.

Also, apparently you can't run server software with it. I haven't tried that
yet, so I'm not sure if this means you can't use listen() to wait for
connections, or if it just means the Linux emulation is firewalled from the
Windows side to stop apps making TCP connections to it. I suspect the latter,
and that someone will find a way around it...

 ac>> I suspect it will be released mainstream when included with the
 ac>> Windows 10 Anniversary Update, expected a few months from now.

 TL> I still have to install Windows 10.

I have some misgivings towards Windows 10 it but thought I'd better have a play
around just to keep up with the technology.

Ironically I've installed it on a MacBook Pro. Blasphemous, I know. It's
configured to dual boot OS X, using Boot Camp.

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