Richard,

> I literally said "It doesn't create an instance of anything".

I already knew its shouldn't, but could not figure out why.  That was my
whole doubt problem!

> He also quoted the documentation of PyType_GenericNew,
> clarifying that it was a function, another thing that apparently only
> registered when Steve told you.

No, that "its a function" part was rather inconsequential.    What was was
what " = PyType_GenericNew" (regardles of latter being a class definition or
function) was returning.

I assumed it was returning an instance, which did not match up with the
"yes, you can move that assignment onto the table", which confused me.  And
I mentioned that (it supposedly returning an instance) several times.

But although I was told wrong there, I can't seem to remember that I've been
told /what actually got returned/ - until Ahem/Steve mentioned that it its a
pointer.   Which directly made sense.

> I'm not asking that you "just understand", I am asking that you
> pay attention to what is being said.

And I said the same for the exact same reason back to you. :-)

> When there's one right answer to a question then it's inherent
> that there's going to be some repetitiveness in any discussion
> about it, because the right answer doesn't change.

I did not expect you to change your answer, but I /did/ expect you to
explain it and/or pick up on my misconception and replace it with the
correct one (I think that both would have led to the same result).

Bottom line, it looks like we both missed clues about what the other tried
to say or even explicitily said.   The will in each direction was there, but
the connection failed (which most likely frustrated you as much as me) . :-\

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

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