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to: Mike `/m`
from: Ellen K.
date: 2002-11-16 23:43:26
subject: Re: Why can`t I read the data I pay to create? (was: Re: 2nd largest PC

From: Ellen K. 

If you have Excel, you should be able to use MSQuery to get the Access data anyway.

On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 17:58:55 -0500, Mike '/m'  wrote
in message :

>
>Subsequently, they put it up as CSV files.  No Excel files were in
>sight.
>
>Regardless, if they want to reach the most people, why not use the
>version of MS Access that can reach the most people?
>
> /m
>
>On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:30:23 -0800, Ellen K.
> wrote:
>
>>That information is available as text files and I think also as an Excel
>>spreadsheet.
>>
>>On Sun, 25 Aug 2002 21:11:09 -0400, Mike '/m'
 wrote in
>>message :
>>
>>>
>>>I ran into a situation with the US gov that was similar to that
>>>described by the honorable legislator in Peru.  I wanted to download
>>>some nutrition data from the USDA site.  Unfortunately, the data was
>>>in MS Access 2000 format.  My Access 97 would not read the file.  I
>>>wrote to the contact for the site and the response I received was:
>>>
>>>"Thank you for your interest in the USDA Nutrient Database for
>>>Standard Reference.  We understand that not everyone uses MS Access
>>>2000, but chose it as a widely used package that would provide an
>>>additional service to our users...."
>>>
>>>
>>>In other words, ~tough luck~.  I cannot read data that I pay my tax
>>>dollars to create.   Methinks the Peruvian Congressman Edgar
>>>Villanueva was on the right track when he wrote of not placing
>>>government data in the hands of a monopolist.
>>>http://www.pimientolinux.com/peru2ms/villanueva_to_ms.html
>>>
>>>I note the section entitiled "Free access to public
information by the
>>>citizen."    Why should I have to pay in order to use data created
>>>with my tax dollars by my government?
>>>
>>> /m
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Mon, 19 Aug 2002 22:36:23 +0100, "Adam Flinton"
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Don't think so....
>>>>
>>>>Chinese do NOT want to be dependant upon a US company. Heck
would the US
gov
>>>>decide to use a Chinese OS where they could not get the source?
>>>>
>>>>It's part of a longer terms move. I don't think the Chinese
are convinced
by
>>>>the RIAA/MPAA tack either. Every piece of knowledge belongs to the
>>>>people..........Linux is providing a nice conjoining of
idealogy &
>>>>practicality.
>>>>
>>>>Adam
>>>>
>>>>"Mike '/m'"  wrote in message
>>>>news:sho2muspr2470gsu7he1n93o5cj8k7k3vd{at}4ax.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> A bigger concern is that China is where Microsoft was
looking for a
>>>>> lot of growth to replace the mature PC market here in the US and
>>>>> Europe.
>>>>>
>>>>> The China Linux project is not good news for
Microsoft.  On the other
>>>>> hand, China may have its eye on the many-multi-billion
cash reserve
>>>>> that Microsoft has, and wants a payout to stay with
Windows, just like
>>>>> Peru.
>>>>>
>>>>>  /m
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 19 Aug 2002 18:47:38 +0100, "Adam Flinton"
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/26737.html
>>>>> >
>>>>> >"In last month's report on a Chinese effort
to build a home-grown Win98,
>>>>we
>>>>> >appealed for further enlightenment on the nature
of the project. Well,
>>>>it's
>>>>> >taken a while, but a kindly Chinese speaker has
done some digging, and
>>>>> >reveals it's Linux-based, and GPLed.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Thanks to the unnamed translator for the
following, and to Mark for
>>>>passing
>>>>> >it on. The apparent involvement of the Taiwanese
government, alongside
>>>>Linux
>>>>> >International, is particularly interesting:
>>>>> >"
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Chinese inc Taiwan.......where are lots of PC
devices made again...?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Adam
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>

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