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"I do not claim responsibility for the entire removal of Graham Cluley;
Rather, I believe Pax myself and several others may share in it.
Graham being mostly responsible for it, however."

He never "removed" Graham Cluely from anything. These posts are from
2002. Cluely was with Sophos from 1999 to 2013.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_Cluley

Graham Cluley
>From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Graham Cluley
Website
grahamcluley.com

Graham Cluley is a British security blogger and the author of
grahamcluley.com; a daily blog on the latest computer security news,
opinion, and advice.[1]

Cluley started his career in the computer security industry as a
programmer at British anti-virus firm S&S International (later known
as Dr Solomon's Software), where he wrote the first Windows version of
Dr Solomon's Anti-Virus Toolkit.

>From 1999 to 2013,[2] Cluley was a Senior Technology Consultant at
Sophos and also acted as the Head of Corporate Communications,
spokesperson and editor of Sophos's Naked Security site.

In 2009 and 2010, Computer Weekly named Cluley Twitter user of the
year.[3]

In April 2011, Cluley was inducted into the InfoSecurity Europe Hall
of Fame.[4]

Before entering the computer security industry, Cluley authored two
interactive fiction adventure games for MS-DOS: Jacaranda Jim (1987)
and Humbug (1990).[5][6]
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DuckFart's arguments with Cluely ended because like a whole bunch of
people found out for themselves, arguing with DuckFart is a waste of
time. He always lies. ALWAYS! Many of his "opponents" just finally
leave a group after tiring of his LIES. They FINALLY realize he can do
NOTHING ELSE BUT LIE. After they leave, because unlike him, they have
a REAL LIFE outside of Usenet. Then he claims he got them, banned,
barred, jailed, killed or whatever the hell. He has done this EVERY
TIME someone he didn't get along with leaves a group. And after they
have left, he begins spinning LIE after LIE about them. Lies which go
unanswered because those who learned their lesson with him know how
self defeating it would be to begin again in confronting his lies -
BECAUSE HE WOULD JUST ADD MORE AND MORE AND MORE LIES on top of those
already told.

He also proves again that if everything else fails for him, revert to
snitching on someone with their employer, ISP, etc., etc., He's
crybaby-snitch, as I've shown in dozens of his posts.

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From: raid...@yahoo.com (Raid)

brian...@hotmail.com (mEMe) wrote in message
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> You don't appear to like being teased?

I don't know of many people who tolerate it for very long, no. I do
know of some individuals irl where I'm located who would be quick to
forcefully put an end to someone "teasing" them. Myself, I'm not like
that. I don't enjoy fights.

> Btw, last night while driving  "home" I was contemplating your forthcoming
> response here... ;o)

Oh joy.

> So in short - nah, I wouldn't dare to nar you... ;o)

Hey, if your just trying to poke a little fun; no harm done. I just
prefer factual information, that's all.

> As already stated, if they were not interested, then it's so VERY
> strange that the dialogues went on and on, over several months.

Some would say we have dialogues too. Does this imply I'm with your
group? :)

> Not if Peter @ ICSA could have had his way back then!

You give them too much credit. Peter could do nothing, He's in no
position of power.

> I "never was" fond of #######s like your present Prezie!

Politics is not a subject I care for. So I have no response to this
comment. To each his/her own.

> Oh those ones! But nah, I can't actually recall them in any specific
> detail... :o(

I'm cursed you might say with a memory. it seems to memorize things I
would prefer it did not. :)

> So you feel the need to rea!!y cover your ass to the nth degree!

With all the bull#### from both sides, wouldn't you? Can't trust
hardly anyone these days. Archive I say.

> Okay, so that's why we haven't seen FS around here of late?

That's why the Sophos Toadie hasn't been present yes. But to clarify,
The remarks Graham made to Pax's wife at the conference certainly
didn't help him.

I do not claim responsibility for the entire removal of Graham Cluley;
Rather, I believe Pax myself and several others may share in it.
Graham being mostly responsible for it, however.

> So, you "enjoy" dishing out the "hurt"?

Graham seemed to enjoy himself when he posted here. He couldn't resist
the wiseass remarks towards me, Nor the inneundo accusations he was so
fond of.

If you mean, do I feel sorry he's ####ed. No, I don't.

> One "rotten" apple shouldn't overly "ruin" an otherwise good and sound
> product?

If said apple has been in the bin too long, with the bin owners aware
of it; the entire product is suspect yes. :)

> >I wrote viruses and antivirus tools. You've done neither for either side.
>
> Correct and so what?

Just an observation. :)

> Hmmm, I can see your pov here, Gigs being in the European Union... ;o)

I'm not familiar with all of your terms. Whom were you speaking of
from EU regarding av/vx?

> Nah, methinks you lie too much about liars... ;o)

Laugh. Your plays on words are equ to that of a 10th grader. Pathetic.
:)

> The "code" told me and everyone else that Class belonged to Vic, and
> besides I had absolutely no desires nor design to so claim it. Don't
> even try to suggest that I'm a code ripper?

I wasn't suggesting you were a code ripper, no. What I suggested was
that you aren't much of a programmer. Are you feeling guilty or
something?

> Whoops, my sis-in-law is about to kick me off their 'puter so I'll
> just have to finish this off tonight!

I'll respond to it tomorrow, time permitting...

Regards,
Raid
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