On a sunny day (Thu, 12 Dec 2019 20:43:30 +0000) it happened druck
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>On 12/12/2019 05:39, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> Where it goes,?? Many times I have though about leaving Linux as it has
alienated itself from Unix so much.
>> Unix was written for efficiency when resources were expensive,,,
>> thought free BSD but no experience with that, write my own multitasker (did
that for Z80 once),
>> or as China is now introducing their own OS as reply to precedent duck's
tariffs, maybe the Chinese OS
>> Those guys are clever, but my Chinese sucks,
>> So.. anyways we need a change but that conspiracy between MS and hardware
sellers is the capitalist system self destructive?
>> OK 'nuf said'.
>
>Well as you seem to have failed to stop the world in 1990 so you could
>get off, perhaps you should consider RISC OS.
>
>Back in the 90s it was incredibly advanced for its time, but has
>spectacularly failed to adopt the ways of modern bloat, so it will still
>run with 90s levels of resources. You wont exhaust the the 512MB of a
>Pi, and as it's resolutely single core, an old original Pi B or Zero is
>sufficient, but it will also run even faster 2B and 3B.

Yes, well, I worked with Unix long before Linux appeared..
and one of my jobs involved designing ISA cards for the IBM PC.,
when the IBM clones came and everybody was getting one, times changed, I
remember us having
discussions about changing to Unix (from the MS DOS that then ruled) already
back then.
At home I was using my Z80 system, and also had networking (Viditel) I think
the French name was Minitel, 1200 / 75 Bd IIRC modem... and downloaded Z80
programs
'online' from the CP/M user club with that long before internet existed.
It was not until the DX2 486 appeared that I bought a PC for at home... and
connected
to the internet with trumpet winsock and Win 3.1 runing on DRDOS...
In 1998 I found a CD with SLS Linux and tried it, my old Unix book helped a
lot,
and never went back to MS stuff (well laptop came with some version of win,
replaced it by Ubuntu that worked out of the box..)
Bought win XP once on recommendation of somebody, waste of money, silly
stickers on your PC... removed it
after a few days... iirc I tried risc OS on an old raspi, could not make sense
of it,
Releasing a 'Panteltje Linux' has occurred to me, but is a lifetime job,
I run Slackware on this laptop and since that is a one man show mostly it is
internally consistent
and has worked for me on many putahs.
 I do see software THE OPERATING SYSTEM as an interface between user programs
and hardware,
NOT as the integrated untransparent buggy blob that MS sells ..

For that reason I do not normally upgrade or change OS / Linux, only when I buy
new hardware,
or in rare cases a new kernel module needs compiling.

So with Buster on my Pi 4 forget about me doing upgrades, and what needs to be
added as applications
will have to be from source mostly,
So I see the OS as part of the hardware basically.

It is in the details as always; old PC next to me has a DVB-S PCI card, 2 sound
cards, now 15 years old
runs old Linux version, also with xfm 9 virtual desktops and zsh as shell.

The plus with the Pis is that you can put in a SDcard with a new OS and user
application just like that,
and have a totally different system.
Playing on PCs with hardware partitions is more complicated (10 partitions with
4 different versions of Linux
is normal for me) this laptop:
panteltje20: ~ # df
Filesystem     1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/root       91788296  82022404   9765892  90% /
tmpfs            3009536         0   3009536   0% /dev/shm
/dev/sda9      104854396 104854396         0 100% /mnt/sda9
/dev/sda8      104854396 104206332    648064 100% /mnt/sda8
/dev/sda7      104854396 104524740    329656 100% /mnt/sda7
/dev/sda5      104854396 103362812   1491584  99% /mnt/sda5
/dev/sda1         102396     25132     77264  25% /mnt/sda1
/dev/sda3      104854396 102498716   2355680  98% /mnt/sda3
panteltje20: ~ # mount
/dev/root on / type reiserfs (rw,relatime)
proc on /proc type proc (rw)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
/dev/sda9 on /mnt/sda9 type reiserfs (rw)
/dev/sda8 on /mnt/sda8 type reiserfs (rw)
/dev/sda7 on /mnt/sda7 type reiserfs (rw)
/dev/sda5 on /mnt/sda5 type reiserfs (rw)
/dev/sda1 on /mnt/sda1 type ntfs (ro)
/dev/sda3 on /mnt/sda3 type reiserfs (rw)

panteltje20: ~ # uname -a
Linux panteltje20 2.6.37.6 #3 SMP Sat Apr 9 22:49:32 CDT 2011 x86_64 Intel(R)
Core(TM) i5-2430M CPU @ 2.40GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux

time ..
On partition has a recent Debian, I can boot in that, old Ubuntu, Slackware
(using now) etc etc..

But as to where it goes....
the world has mainly gone nuts, now there is a mass hysteria about saving the
climate,
little kids got brainwashed years ago by the evil Al Gore, now get into a
position of power, tear down the nuclear power plants all over Germany
but in reality climate will change in a very predictable way:
 http://old.world-mysteries.com/alignments/mpl_al3b.htm
set by the changes in orbit of the earth around the sun, in the past
civilizations have come and gone because of those effects.
NOTHING to Do in any way by the little effect we have making CO2 or whatever
gases.

No it is now about selling new stuff
The rulers that are just want to tax .... profit, same for computahs and, just
like in the dark ages religion (the Church)
falsified real science and kept the people ignorant and manipulated the masses
they still do that today,
when the Viking mars experiment was positive for life it was denied hours later
by the powers that rule you
and no experiment ever looked for life on mars again.

You are being played, you must buy more, pay more taxes, and believe this earth
is the only place where life exists
(no tax breaks elsewhere???)
Hey I would volunteer for a trip to mars with Elon's spaceship.
:-0 ;-)

Anyways now the US dirty ducks wants to sanction the EU for using Russian gas,
(pipeline from Russia to Germany and the rest of Europe)
I begin to see precedent duck and his allies the demoncrates as enemy, threat,
Already now EU has declared MS software as a security threat so hopefully all
of EU will soon move to a 'simple' version of Linux..
As far as the UK goes I did read this morning they will leave EU on Jan 31, so
go play with that duck club and lose.

Rebellion time.

I should have written don't get me started but I did get started revolt!!!!!!

It is important we keep the knowhow of all energy generating methods alive and
standby, as we will need that power to survive as species
both in the coming hotter climate AND the colder period after that.
World geography will change completely, mass migration will happen for
survival, and possibly a large amount of human kind will go extinct
We need nuclear powered spaceships to colonize other planets,
Our little smartphones and raspberries with large scale integration will fail
after a few hours in space due to radiation effects...
There is work to be done, do it while we still can.
Most knowledge of the Roman empire went when it collapsed and dark ages came..
with a duck running that N American collective and it now falling apart from
inside out, maybe some (if we as species are very lucky)
archaeologist will dig up one of our smartphones thousands of years later and
say: wonder how they made those in those day,,,,

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