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to: Mike `/m`
from: Ellen K.
date: 2002-11-20 19:29:48
subject: Re: Why can`t I read the data I pay to create? (was: Re: 2nd largest PC

From: Ellen K. 

So?   You can get it as a text file too, as previously noted.

On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 18:46:56 -0500, Mike '/m'  wrote
in message :

>
>Then it's not on a single worksheet.
>
> /m
>
>On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 15:52:20 -0800, Ellen K.
> wrote:
>
>>Include a WHERE condition and break it down.
>>
>>On Sun, 17 Nov 2002 10:23:26 -0500, Mike '/m'
 wrote in
>>message :
>>
>>>
>>>Only up to the 65k row limit of Excel, among other things.
>>>
>>>On the other hand, if they want to reach the most people, why make it
>>>so difficult to get to the data?
>>>
>>> /m
>>>
>>>On Sat, 16 Nov 2002 23:43:27 -0800, Ellen K.
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>If you have Excel, you should be able to use MSQuery to get
the Access
>>>>data anyway.
>>>>
>>>>On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 17:58:55 -0500, Mike '/m'
 wrote in
>>>>message :
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Subsequently, they put it up as CSV files.  No Excel
files were in
>>>>>sight.
>>>>>
>>>>>Regardless, if they want to reach the most people, why
not use the
>>>>>version of MS Access that can reach the most people?
>>>>>
>>>>> /m
>>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:30:23 -0800, Ellen K.
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>That information is available as text files and I
think also as an Excel
>>>>>>spreadsheet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sun, 25 Aug 2002 21:11:09 -0400, Mike '/m'
 wrote in
>>>>>>message :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I ran into a situation with the US gov that was
similar to that
>>>>>>>described by the honorable legislator in Peru. 
I wanted to download
>>>>>>>some nutrition data from the USDA site. 
Unfortunately, the data was
>>>>>>>in MS Access 2000 format.  My Access 97 would
not read the file.  I
>>>>>>>wrote to the contact for the site and the
response I received was:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Thank you for your interest in the USDA
Nutrient Database for
>>>>>>>Standard Reference.  We understand that not
everyone uses MS Access
>>>>>>>2000, but chose it as a widely used package
that would provide an
>>>>>>>additional service to our users...."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>In other words, ~tough luck~.  I cannot read
data that I pay my tax
>>>>>>>dollars to create.   Methinks the Peruvian
Congressman Edgar
>>>>>>>Villanueva was on the right track when he wrote
of not placing
>>>>>>>government data in the hands of a monopolist.
>>>>>>>http://www.pimientolinux.com/peru2ms/villanueva_to_ms.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I note the section entitiled "Free access
to public information by the
>>>>>>>citizen."    Why should I have to pay in
order to use data created
>>>>>>>with my tax dollars by my government?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> /m
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Mon, 19 Aug 2002 22:36:23 +0100, "Adam
Flinton"
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Don't think so....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Chinese do NOT want to be dependant upon a
US company. Heck would the
US gov
>>>>>>>>decide to use a Chinese OS where they could
not get the source?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It's part of a longer terms move. I don't
think the Chinese are
convinced by
>>>>>>>>the RIAA/MPAA tack either. Every piece of
knowledge belongs to the
>>>>>>>>people..........Linux is providing a nice
conjoining of idealogy &
>>>>>>>>practicality.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Adam
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Mike '/m'"
 wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:sho2muspr2470gsu7he1n93o5cj8k7k3vd{at}4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A bigger concern is that China is
where Microsoft was looking for a
>>>>>>>>> lot of growth to replace the mature PC
market here in the US and
>>>>>>>>> Europe.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The China Linux project is not good
news for Microsoft.  On the other
>>>>>>>>> hand, China may have its eye on the
many-multi-billion cash reserve
>>>>>>>>> that Microsoft has, and wants a payout
to stay with Windows, just
like
>>>>>>>>> Peru.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  /m
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 19 Aug 2002 18:47:38 +0100,
"Adam Flinton"
>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/26737.html
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >"In last month's report on a
Chinese effort to build a home-grown
Win98,
>>>>>>>>we
>>>>>>>>> >appealed for further enlightenment
on the nature of the project.
Well,
>>>>>>>>it's
>>>>>>>>> >taken a while, but a kindly
Chinese speaker has done some digging,
and
>>>>>>>>> >reveals it's Linux-based, and GPLed.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >Thanks to the unnamed translator
for the following, and to Mark for
>>>>>>>>passing
>>>>>>>>> >it on. The apparent involvement of
the Taiwanese government,
alongside
>>>>>>>>Linux
>>>>>>>>> >International, is particularly interesting:
>>>>>>>>> >"
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >Chinese inc Taiwan.......where are
lots of PC devices made again...?
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >Adam
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>

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