From: Mike '/m' 


... and your point is?

On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 19:29:49 -0800, Ellen K.
 wrote:

>So?   You can get it as a text file too, as previously noted.
>
>On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 18:46:56 -0500, Mike '/m'  wrote in
>message :
>
>>
>>Then it's not on a single worksheet.
>>
>> /m
>>
>>On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 15:52:20 -0800, Ellen K.
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Include a WHERE condition and break it down.
>>>
>>>On Sun, 17 Nov 2002 10:23:26 -0500, Mike '/m'
 wrote in
>>>message :
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Only up to the 65k row limit of Excel, among other things.
>>>>
>>>>On the other hand, if they want to reach the most people, why make it
>>>>so difficult to get to the data?
>>>>
>>>> /m
>>>>
>>>>On Sat, 16 Nov 2002 23:43:27 -0800, Ellen K.
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>If you have Excel, you should be able to use MSQuery to
get the Access
>>>>>data anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 17:58:55 -0500, Mike '/m'
 wrote in
>>>>>message :
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Subsequently, they put it up as CSV files.  No
Excel files were in
>>>>>>sight.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regardless, if they want to reach the most people,
why not use the
>>>>>>version of MS Access that can reach the most people?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /m
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:30:23 -0800, Ellen K.
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>That information is available as text files and
I think also as an Excel
>>>>>>>spreadsheet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Sun, 25 Aug 2002 21:11:09 -0400, Mike '/m'
 wrote in
>>>>>>>message
:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I ran into a situation with the US gov that
was similar to that
>>>>>>>>described by the honorable legislator in
Peru.  I wanted to download
>>>>>>>>some nutrition data from the USDA site. 
Unfortunately, the data was
>>>>>>>>in MS Access 2000 format.  My Access 97
would not read the file.  I
>>>>>>>>wrote to the contact for the site and the
response I received was:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Thank you for your interest in the
USDA Nutrient Database for
>>>>>>>>Standard Reference.  We understand that not
everyone uses MS Access
>>>>>>>>2000, but chose it as a widely used package
that would provide an
>>>>>>>>additional service to our users...."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>In other words, ~tough luck~.  I cannot
read data that I pay my tax
>>>>>>>>dollars to create.   Methinks the Peruvian
Congressman Edgar
>>>>>>>>Villanueva was on the right track when he
wrote of not placing
>>>>>>>>government data in the hands of a monopolist.
>>>>>>>>http://www.pimientolinux.com/peru2ms/villanueva_to_ms.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I note the section entitiled "Free
access to public information by the
>>>>>>>>citizen."    Why should I have to pay
in order to use data created
>>>>>>>>with my tax dollars by my government?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> /m
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Mon, 19 Aug 2002 22:36:23 +0100,
"Adam Flinton"
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Don't think so....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Chinese do NOT want to be dependant
upon a US company. Heck would the
US gov
>>>>>>>>>decide to use a Chinese OS where they
could not get the source?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>It's part of a longer terms move. I
don't think the Chinese are
convinced by
>>>>>>>>>the RIAA/MPAA tack either. Every piece
of knowledge belongs to the
>>>>>>>>>people..........Linux is providing a
nice conjoining of idealogy &
>>>>>>>>>practicality.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Adam
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Mike '/m'"
 wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:sho2muspr2470gsu7he1n93o5cj8k7k3vd{at}4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A bigger concern is that China is
where Microsoft was looking for a
>>>>>>>>>> lot of growth to replace the
mature PC market here in the US and
>>>>>>>>>> Europe.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The China Linux project is not
good news for Microsoft.  On the
other
>>>>>>>>>> hand, China may have its eye on
the many-multi-billion cash reserve
>>>>>>>>>> that Microsoft has, and wants a
payout to stay with Windows, just
like
>>>>>>>>>> Peru.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  /m
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 19 Aug 2002 18:47:38
+0100, "Adam Flinton"
>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/26737.html
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >"In last month's report
on a Chinese effort to build a home-grown
Win98,
>>>>>>>>>we
>>>>>>>>>> >appealed for further
enlightenment on the nature of the project.
Well,
>>>>>>>>>it's
>>>>>>>>>> >taken a while, but a kindly
Chinese speaker has done some digging,
and
>>>>>>>>>> >reveals it's Linux-based, and GPLed.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >Thanks to the unnamed
translator for the following, and to Mark for
>>>>>>>>>passing
>>>>>>>>>> >it on. The apparent
involvement of the Taiwanese government,
alongside
>>>>>>>>>Linux
>>>>>>>>>> >International, is particularly
interesting:
>>>>>>>>>> >"
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >Chinese inc Taiwan.......where
are lots of PC devices made
again...?
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >Adam
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>

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