On 01-13-98 David Martorana wrote to John Boone... 
 
        Hello David, 
  
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 DM>  DM>   Ideology = Closed dogma, system 
    
 DM>    Now that I know Frank's definition of ideology, I would 
 DM>    understand his views much better. I sometimes have some 
 DM>    quibble with your definitions also . Problem is: I 
 DM>    came from a rather simple world where the dictionary was 
 DM>    king-  but I'm fast learning that philosophy, politics and 
 
  Understood, as Frank and I agree there most be some -common- 
understanding of the words, the words as Frank says, using the 
words of another, must share some "common sense."   
  The dictionary does give a place to start to but say, 
the definitions are limited to the dictionary, doesn't do 
the words or the concepts justice. 
  Frank does object to the twisting the words of another 
(as in a definitional point) to make a point as he says 
it destroys the debate (a point I agreed with); however, 
as I pointed out to him a valid accepted technique to argue 
is "reductio ad absurdum" which some would say "he/she is 
twisting my words." 
  
 DM>    religion do not feel so constrained ......and I accept- 
 DM>    that mutual understanding of language can be negotiated. 
  Science (not to imply science is -it-) is for me negotiated 
over time.  
 
 DM>    And yes! I do monitor your postings to Frank (as well as his 
 DM>    to you). 
    
  Actually, Frank and I probably agree more than we disagree. 
I, however, have been arguing a fine logical point. 
  
 DM>    I have been reading on philosophy, but for this week I'm 
 DM>    slipping in a book by Saddam Hussein's son's double, Latif 
 DM>    Yahia (an outsider that lived within a closed system). 
 
  Enjoy! 
 
Take care, 
John 
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