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to: Mike `/m`
from: Ellen K.
date: 2002-11-19 15:52:20
subject: Re: Why can`t I read the data I pay to create? (was: Re: 2nd largest PC

From: Ellen K. 

Include a WHERE condition and break it down.

On Sun, 17 Nov 2002 10:23:26 -0500, Mike '/m'  wrote
in message :

>
>Only up to the 65k row limit of Excel, among other things.
>
>On the other hand, if they want to reach the most people, why make it
>so difficult to get to the data?
>
> /m
>
>On Sat, 16 Nov 2002 23:43:27 -0800, Ellen K.
> wrote:
>
>>If you have Excel, you should be able to use MSQuery to get the Access
>>data anyway.
>>
>>On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 17:58:55 -0500, Mike '/m'
 wrote in
>>message :
>>
>>>
>>>Subsequently, they put it up as CSV files.  No Excel files were in
>>>sight.
>>>
>>>Regardless, if they want to reach the most people, why not use the
>>>version of MS Access that can reach the most people?
>>>
>>> /m
>>>
>>>On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:30:23 -0800, Ellen K.
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>That information is available as text files and I think
also as an Excel
>>>>spreadsheet.
>>>>
>>>>On Sun, 25 Aug 2002 21:11:09 -0400, Mike '/m'
 wrote in
>>>>message :
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I ran into a situation with the US gov that was similar to that
>>>>>described by the honorable legislator in Peru.  I
wanted to download
>>>>>some nutrition data from the USDA site.  Unfortunately,
the data was
>>>>>in MS Access 2000 format.  My Access 97 would not read
the file.  I
>>>>>wrote to the contact for the site and the response I
received was:
>>>>>
>>>>>"Thank you for your interest in the USDA Nutrient
Database for
>>>>>Standard Reference.  We understand that not everyone
uses MS Access
>>>>>2000, but chose it as a widely used package that would provide an
>>>>>additional service to our users...."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>In other words, ~tough luck~.  I cannot read data that
I pay my tax
>>>>>dollars to create.   Methinks the Peruvian Congressman Edgar
>>>>>Villanueva was on the right track when he wrote of not placing
>>>>>government data in the hands of a monopolist.
>>>>>http://www.pimientolinux.com/peru2ms/villanueva_to_ms.html
>>>>>
>>>>>I note the section entitiled "Free access to
public information by the
>>>>>citizen."    Why should I have to pay in order to
use data created
>>>>>with my tax dollars by my government?
>>>>>
>>>>> /m
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 19 Aug 2002 22:36:23 +0100, "Adam Flinton"
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Don't think so....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Chinese do NOT want to be dependant upon a US
company. Heck would the US
gov
>>>>>>decide to use a Chinese OS where they could not get
the source?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It's part of a longer terms move. I don't think the
Chinese are convinced
by
>>>>>>the RIAA/MPAA tack either. Every piece of knowledge
belongs to the
>>>>>>people..........Linux is providing a nice
conjoining of idealogy &
>>>>>>practicality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Adam
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Mike '/m'"  wrote
in message
>>>>>>news:sho2muspr2470gsu7he1n93o5cj8k7k3vd{at}4ax.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A bigger concern is that China is where
Microsoft was looking for a
>>>>>>> lot of growth to replace the mature PC market
here in the US and
>>>>>>> Europe.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The China Linux project is not good news for
Microsoft.  On the other
>>>>>>> hand, China may have its eye on the
many-multi-billion cash reserve
>>>>>>> that Microsoft has, and wants a payout to stay
with Windows, just like
>>>>>>> Peru.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  /m
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 19 Aug 2002 18:47:38 +0100, "Adam
Flinton"
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/26737.html
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >"In last month's report on a Chinese
effort to build a home-grown
Win98,
>>>>>>we
>>>>>>> >appealed for further enlightenment on the
nature of the project. Well,
>>>>>>it's
>>>>>>> >taken a while, but a kindly Chinese
speaker has done some digging, and
>>>>>>> >reveals it's Linux-based, and GPLed.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >Thanks to the unnamed translator for the
following, and to Mark for
>>>>>>passing
>>>>>>> >it on. The apparent involvement of the
Taiwanese government, alongside
>>>>>>Linux
>>>>>>> >International, is particularly interesting:
>>>>>>> >"
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >Chinese inc Taiwan.......where are lots of
PC devices made again...?
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >Adam
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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