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from: Mark Sobolewski mark_sob
date: 2005-03-26 12:49:00
subject: Re: Is Fundy Bush Putting Teens At Risk?

In article ,
 "Hyerdahl"  wrote:

> mark_sobolewski{at}yahoo.com wrote:
> > Hyerdahl wrote:
>
> > > I have some hope that they will wake up.  Europeans
> > > don't seem as easily deceived as puritanical supersticious
> Americans.
> >
> > I'm reminded of this cute Simpson's episode where Homer
> > is running for political office and whines to Moe:
> >
> > "Why won't the people love me!?!?!  I hate them!
> > They're so stupid!"
> >
> > That's a nice summation of the last presidential election:
> > "Vote for me!  I'm a liberal elitist, your better!
> > You should learn to be more like the French!"
> >
> > Yep, it's just amazing how the MIDDLE CLASS didn't want to
> > "wake up" and find the joy in passing "global
tests" and
> > prevent outsourcing (while at the same time throwing
> > away American interests for foreign treaties)
>
> Well, Mark... America is a free country, and, as you suggest, they are
> welcome to go the way of the stupid.  :-)  I have to admit that I would
> not be able to be a candidate representing such a stupid bunch.  :-)

HAHAHAHAHA!

The problem is that the stupid bunch are the primary
democratic party electorate:  Florida voters
for Buchanon, inner city residents with an 8th grade
education and recent immigrants who can barely speak
English (with the exception of my wife :-).

I don't doubt there are leftist elitists who are both
intelligent and wealthy, but they are in the minority.
Literally. The "middle class" red-staters didn't buy the
argument that they needed Frenchie to rescue them from
"outsourcing" while subjecting America to a "global test"
and taxing them into the ground for the truly stupid
democratic electorate.

The left now appears to be writing a book: "How to
lose elections"  First, be as bitter as possible
and a crybaby.  Voters have a lot of confidence in
crybabies.  Next, if you don't get your way, tell
everyone who didn't vote for you that they're stupid.
They'll remember that next time for sure. :-)

> Of course, I don't need to BE a candidate, nor do I need to run for
> office to make sure my ideas are heard.

They're heard all right.  That's the problem!

Both parties feel a need during elections to shimmy into
the center and appease as much of the moderate electorate
as possible.

Your side's base needs more handholding than the other
side's.  Even when it was possible for Kerry to keep
his mouth shut and maybe win by default, he couldn't
resist insulting the precise "stupid" electorate
(the middle class) he was trying to get on his side.

Say what you like about W (and you will :-) but
he genuinely makes an outreach for women and
minority voters (some say too much even) without
insulting his base.

Sometimes, "stupid" people win simply by being hardworking
and likeable.

>  As to the next Democratic
> candidate, I have no idea what they should say, to help people who are
> being led by the nose, down the primerose path.

Hopefully, they'll get another candidate who thinks that
way and displays that attitude during public appearances.
Nothing gets stupid people to vote faster for the other
candidate than giving the impression that's why he (or she)
thinks of them.

>   Perhaps it's time to
> split the country up.  Red states and Blue states.  :-)

Oh hell, the fundies would certainly have no problem with that!
Of course, you know, this would mean all the professional
lefties fleeing blue states and inner city crime areas would
have nowhere to go. :-)

>  The blue
> states can make sure jobs aren't outsourced,

Yeah, see how long these states survive without cheap
electronics made in China. :-)

Actually, they're already doing this.  The jobs
are protected, in Californa for example, by fleeing
across the border to Nevada or Arizona.  So the jobs
stay in the US of A. :-)

> that we secure all new
> technology because we don't fear the devil,

What new techology do you allege the fundies are blocking?
Stem cell research?  No monies are due out of that
research for several years.  That's why it's called basic
research.

What makes your claim hilariously ironic is all
the frail women needing smelling salts who
couldn't handle the president of Harvard questioning
why women, despite all the handouts and special
protections, still couldn't grain ground in
science and math.

Gee, maybe it's because frail women who collapse
at the suggestion of abstract ideas they find
offensive have a hard time handling scientific
truths rather than discrimination?  Just a thought...

> That health insurance is
> available to all Americans,

So you're saying that old people should all starve
to death to pay for this program?  I don't think
they'll like that. :-)

> and that schools are made whole again,

What do you mean whole?  Aren't they more diverse
now in California? :-)

> while the red states can go to church 5 days a week,

And see their home schooled kids beat the pants
out blue state public schooled kids...

> control women's
> bodies (unless their women travel to blue states)

I'm cool with that.  As you as you don't mind seeing
jobs travel to red states.  (Northern Virginia for example.
We just love the District!!! :-)

> and wage war on
> weekends.  Sounds like a plan.

Including the war that liberated Afghanistan and Iraqi
women so maybe they too someday might be able to
complain about men oppressing them. :-)

regards,
Mark Sobolewski


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