Hey Hyerdahl

    You snipped the part where I pointed out that Summers persecuters
will soon enough be seen by history as no different than the thugs who
went after Galileo for daring to challenge their comfortable,
profitable orthodoxies. I guess that made you nervous.
    The odds that serious scientists can be found anywhere in just a
few years from now who will still believe that men and women are the
same except that women can gestate are close to nothing. It is all over
the place even now that men and women resemble each other genetically
LESS than humans resemble chimps. Silly people like feminists at
Harvard are on the run with their blinkered doctrinaire self-taught
lies.
   No wonder they are resorting to crude intimidation and
terrorism-by-tears. They know that if a clear, open, free exploration
of the issues continues they will have to get an honest job.



Hyerdahl wrote:
> rdubose{at}pdq.net wrote:
> > Hyerdahl wrote:
> > > Rob wrote:
> > > > "Little Dionysos"
 wrote in
message
> > > news:...
> > > > > More artciles on Larry Summers
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Utilities/printer_preview.asp?idArticle=5297&R=C4322F152
> > > > > by Havard Professor Mansfield
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?pt=IZMZoxUzwPMhvmZIyM6y9R%3D%3D
> > > > > by Havard Professor Steven Pinker
> > > > >
> > > > > D.
> > > >
> > > > Nice links, ta.
> > > > Professor Mansfield got one of his paragraphs straight from
> soc.men
> > > :)
> > > >
> > > > Quote:
> > > It takes one's breath away to watch feminist women at work. At
the
> > > same time that they denounce traditional stereotypes they conform
> > to
> > > > them. If at the back of your sexist mind you think that women
are
> > > > emotional, you listen agape as professor Nancy Hopkins of MIT
> comes
> > > > out with the threat that she will be sick if she has to hear
too
> > much
> > > > of what she doesn't agree with.
> > >
> > > Well, you must count Jeb Bush quite the fool too, since he also
> said
> > > something to that effect about the woman who's deprived of her
> > feeding> tube.  I guess it isn't that a person can feel sickened by
> crap
> > that's going on is simply not available to women, eh?  So, it would
> appear
> > > that feeling "sickened" by words is not necessarily a female
trait.
> > And Nancy Hopkins, like me, is SICK to death of arrogant men trying
> > to > explain away discrimination agaisnt women by parsing it off as
> some
> > > inferior brain functioning instead of the sexism it is.
> >
> >
> >    Clever inversion noted.
>
> "Clever" and true.
>
>
>  If women have not achieved something, it
> > must only be mens fault.
>
> Men are only "at fault" where they are using discrimination to either
> exclude women or to explain why others are excluding them.  Trying to
> say that women have lesser brains is what they used to do to African
> Americans as well.  It's not a particularly new tactic.
>
>
> >    Your permanent claim on victimhood will backfire eventually.
> People
> > will begin to ask why bother to invest so much in the education and
> > advancement of such frail vessels.
> >
> There was nothing "frail" about African Americans pointing out the
> foolishness of using brain differences (racism) to discriminate and
it
> is not a frailty for women to point it out as sexism either.
> > >
> > >  If you think women are suggestible,> you hear it said that the
> mere
> > > suggestion of an innate inequality in women will keep them from
> > > stirring themselves to excel.
>
> The female students under Summers tuteledge should certainly not
expect
> to excel as much as their male counterparts since Summers already has
> them categorized.  How can a man who finds just over half of society
> inferior represent his female students?
> >
> >    A recent and very excellent book on the business of guiding
> climbers
> > up Mt. Everest made an interesting point: If a guide does too much
> and
> > makes it too easy for a climber to get way high up the mountain
that
> > does not mean that the climber can be kept alive unless he or she
is
> > pretty damn good on their own.
>
> That is so true.  Oh Eun-sun is one such famous mountain climber and
> I'm sure she paid her dues.
>
>  Beyond a certain altitude, the realities> of wind and snow and
> hardship tend to overcome every effort to create an artificially safe
> environment for a weaker climber. So, ultimately, no one really
> benefits from this sort of hand-holding and often people
> > die because of it.
>
> Not treating women with sexism is hardly "handholding";  women are
not
> asking that you bitter boys lead them up the mountain;  they simply
> want you the move the fuck out of their way.  :-)
>
> >    I think of this when I hear of a full Prof. at Harvard
(supposedly
> > the main arena) who starts to cry and wimper for someone to help
her
> > from the room when confronted by ideas she does not like.
> >
> She didn't cry or wimper;  she was "sickened" much like Jeb Bush
feels
> at the demise of the woman on the feeding tube.  It seems that men
can
> feel sickened.  :-)
>
> > >
> > > The president of an institution is supposed to represent ALL THE
> > > STUDENTS, even the women, in that institution;  if Summers
believes
> > > women inferior, he cannot and should not try to represent them.
> It's
> > > just that simple.  Every female student in that school should
look
> at
> > > him with suspicion
> > >
> > >  While> denouncing the feminine mystique, feminists behave as if
> they
> > > were > > devoted to it.
> > >
> > > Except that there is nothing at all mysterious about sexism; it's
> > > pretty much the same as it has always been.  Men feel insecure
and
> > try> to prevent women from continuing forward, so they throw up
road
> > blocks> wherever they can.  Today, however, women aren't accepting
> even the
> > > notion of such a road block and, instead of ignoring them or
going
> > > around them, are knocking down those who place them there.
> > >
> > > They are women who assert their independence but still
> > > > depend on men to keep women secure and comfortable while
admiring
> > > > their independence.
>
> Nonsense!  Women already ARE independent;  they can vote, own
property,
> control their own bodies and work outside the home for equal pay.
Now
> they're just enforcing those things which is why dickdorks like
Summers
> is bellyaching.  It's easier for him to explain why there are more
men
> than women hired if he makes unscientifically proven statements about
> women's ineptitude.  No one there is keeping women "secure and
> comfortable".
>
>  Even in the gender-neutral society, men are> > > expected by
feminists
> to open doors for women. If men do not, they are> intimidating women.
> > >
> > > Hahahahah...Men can't "intimidate women" in this
day and age;
they
> > are still trying tho, and one way for women to handle that is to
> expose
> > > them for what they are.  That's what Summers is experiencing
right
> > now. Perhaps it's turn about fair play.
> >
> >
> >    What Summers is experiencing is a relentless barrage of lies and
> > distortions regarding what he actually said, much less what he
> actually
> > meant.
>
> I don't give a shit about what he "meant"; it's what he SAID that
folks
> are judging.  He slipped up;  for just one second he was honest about
> what he thought, and a university president who finds women inferior
> CANNOT represent those female students.  It's just that simple.
>
>    Not that you care, but the direction of discovery in the field of
> > neuroscience is exactly as Summers mentioned.
>
> Neuroscience is a fascinating study.  Right now I'm reading an
> interesting novel about the differences between Neanderthals and
> Cro-Magnon.  The author uses science to create a fantasy about what
he
> believes is one of three scenerios as to why what we call
Neanderthals
> dissapeared.  However, studying brain science is nowhere near as
sexist
> or racist than pretending that one social group is better than the
> other.  That's just bigotry.  When we use brain science to find
better
> ways to teach people or better ways to implement peace, etc. then it
> becomes a worthy tool for civilization.  When we just use it to
explain
> why we didn't hire and promote women ...we're just bigots.



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