~>  EC> That IS what he said, and his words ARE accurately quoted above, so
 
~> i do not see "that's all they've been doing" in dave's
quoted words...

Then you either misread them or missed out on basic boolean algebra. 
Either way, you have managed to sidetrack the thread in quite possibly the
most boring way you could have.

~> dave is a big boy... 

No reason to start insulting him.

~> he can handle himself rather well... 

Having seen no evidence of it, I'll have to take your word for it.
 
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