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echo: pol_inc
to: Ross Cassell
from: Bob Klahn
date: 2010-06-18 21:29:00
subject: Real Names

RC>>> DD214. One of my bosses was a weapons mechanic in the USAF,
 RC>>> for the F16, he said that 65 days in the USAF, 42 being
 RC>>> basic training, would not have come close to meeting the
 RC>>> boasts Sauer had made.

 BK>>  From what I have seen of it, I could explain to your former boss
 BK>>  how it would be possible, but not to you.

 RC> No training program for such a position would be only 23
 RC> days, allowing time for him to be injured, treated at a
 RC> hospital, playing cribbage with a AF General, then being
 RC> discharged.

 I do not recall him saying he completed the course.

 RC> But you employ faulty logic, for example, you would call
 RC> someone whom attended Law School, but didnt finish, much
 RC> less pass the BAR, a lawyer, wouldnt you Robert?

 I would say he had studied law. That would be valid.

 I would say anyone with any such training would spot your
 deception easily.

 RC>>> Another story, relating on how funny
 RC>>> he thought a F15 crash was, only speaks volumes to his
 RC>>> character.

 BK>>  I believe he said no one was injured. So, what is the problem?

 RC> The severity of the incident, who could have been injured
 RC> and of course loss of equipment and the cost to taxpayers,
 RC> an airplane crash isnt a laughing matter..

 Why not? Does being serious about it lessen the cost or damage?

 Thomas Edison had a warehouse full of old movies. When it caught
 fire he ran home and told his wife to come out and see it. He
 said you will never see a fire like this again.

 What else was there to do?

 RC> To you liberal pussies, maybe it was funny, you see it as
 RC> arms reduction.

 I wore the uniform, you didn't.

 BK>>  What speaks volumes to character is not opposing those who have
 BK>>  spewed venom over many here who had done nothing wrong but
 BK>>  disagree with them.

 RC> Like you dont do your share of spewing, you are as much an
 RC> angel as the Pope is a Muslim.

 The Pope is a Muslim? I didn't know that.

 RC>>> I was in the very echo when he made his weapons mechanic
 BK>>  ...
 RC>>> facts the two were discussing and correcting each other on
 RC>>> were the color paint used, calibre and make up of the ammo
 RC>>> used in the primary weapon. Raymond served in the US Army
 RC>>> and worked in military intelligence in the Pentagon.

 BK>>  I'll bet it has flown with multiple colors.

 RC> Depends on the theatre is was being deployed in.. I believe
 RC> desert camo was put on for the mideast exercises, the plane
 RC> was originally designed to fight Soviet Armor in Europe,
 RC> therefore Green camo.

 Or something else entirely for artic duty? Or whatever.

 BK>>  I don't recall what all different weapons it is capable of
 BK>>  carrying.

 RC> The gatling cannon on its nose fired depleted uranium
 RC> rounds, not sure of the calibre.

 I would bet it would also carry conventional rounds for training
 at the least.

 RC> Obviously it carries missiles and other ordnance on its
 RC> wing pylons.

 RC>>> What Sauer should have done was say piss on those whom dont
 RC>>> believe he served, without the DD214 he so readily
 RC>>> produced, he could have made himself out to be anything and
 RC>>> there would have been far less to refute it.

 BK>>  True, and irrelevant to the question of why you consider
 BK>>  revealing that a weapon.

 RC> Compare him to you, who has caught more grief over stated
 RC> claims of military service?

 Irrelevant to the question.


BOB KLAHN bob.klahn{at}sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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