On 06/02/2010 05:55 PM, mark lewis -> Ed Hulett wrote:

 ml>>> as are you and many (most?) others who participate in most any public
 ml>>> venue... get over it, eh?

 EH>>> For someone who claims they don't argue merely for the sake of
 EH>>> argument, you certainly do go on.

 ml>> but i'm not arguing :P :lol:

 EH>> How old are you?

 ml> old enough to have retired from the USAF before i turned 40 and have
 ml> four grandchildren...

You certainly don't act it. You act like you are in your teens.

 ml> how old are you?

Old enough to be looking at my 40 HS reunion soon.

 ml>> [trim]

 EH>>>> Last I checked, Wayne isn't one of the engineers
 EH>>>> attempting to stop the leak.

 ml>>> that has nothing to do with the point of you and others putting
 ml> someone
 ml>>> down for their ideas on how to solve the problem that BP is facing...
 ml>>> hell, the BP folk have failed with all of their attempts so
what makes
 ml>>> them better than anyone else? just because they have a few pieces of
 ml>>> sheepskin on their wall(s)?? i don't think so...

 EH>>> If they have failed, do you really think Wayne's ideas would
 EH>>> succeed?

 ml>> it is possible... heck, they might be able to use one of your ideas to
 ml>> solve the problem if you'd make them available to'em ;)

 EH>> I don't pretend to know all the dynamics of trying to stem the flow
 EH>> of an oil gusher a mile under the sea.

 ml> why should that be a requirement for coming up with an idea that might
 ml> help the stem the flow of material from that hole in the ground?? i've
 ml> definitely not seen that listed as a requirement... have you??

It certainly is a requirement for workable ideas. The pressures down there
are extreme plus they have to use remote unmanned underwater rovers to do
all the mechanical work. Their diamond saw was stuck on one of the pipes
and now they aren't sure it's even working now that it's free.

 ml>> [trim]

 EH>>>> Take a look in the mirror. You are doing the very
 EH>>>> thing you deride me for.

 ml>>> ye reap what ye sow, eh? ;)

 EH>>> There's that high opinion you have of yourself again.

 ml>> nope... not at all... just throwing back at you what you dish out to
 ml>> others... don't like it much do ya? ;)

 EH>> There you go with that high opinion again. You really should get
 EH>> help.

 ml> consider this as my therapy, then :P ;)

You need serious therapy.

 ml> oh wait! are you telling me that i should "get help" as
in getting some
 ml> others to come in and join the fray?

No, you need professional help.

 ml> then the question comes to mind of "what are your qualifications that
 ml> enable you to tell me in need to seek some sort of assitance for some
 ml> problem that you think i have?" that also brings the question
of "what
 ml> qualifications do you have to determine that i (may) have a problem??"

It's just an observation.

 ml>> [trim]

 EH>>>> No, it was rather easy. I'm amused that you
 EH>>>> claim you couldn't find anything when you tried.

 ml>>> i didn't claim any such thing... i stated a fact...

 EH>>> ROFLOL! Both Cassell and I were able to find thousands of
 EH>>> references in seconds and you claim you couldn't find a single
 EH>>> reference. I doubt you even made the effort to do a search.

 ml>> i guess we can start calling you thomas or tommie or some such, then...

 EH>> Whatever makes you happy.

 ml> that surely won't do it... FWIW: the reference to
"thomas" was in the
 ml> manner of "doubting thomas" as in "you sure are a
doubting thomas" ;)

I couldn't care less why you thought it was relevant.

 ml>> i already explained that the terms i was using were obviously not
 ml> decent
 ml>> ones to use... so sue me, eh? ;)

 EH>> IOW, you didn't even try.

 ml> where has that been stated by my writtings? i can tell you... no
 ml> where... maybe you could try another tactic? possibly one that has some
 ml> bearing on what really happened? are you psychic?

You may have tried hard to cover up the fact that you didn't do a search,
but it is blatantly obvious from looking at the fact that it took only
seconds to find citation with the simplest of search terms.

 EH>>>> You're the one castigating. I suggested you do
 EH>>>> a search, you turned around and claimed your
 EH>>>> search found nothing in an attempt to make it
 EH>>>> sound like I made it all up.

 ml>>> no, ed... i don't play stupid childish games like that...
quite unlike
 ml>>> other supposed adults in this and other political venues...

 EH>>> Is that so? Then explain your claimed zero results when compared to
 EH>>> the ease at which I came up with one.

 ml>> i already explained that... oh hey! there's a nit over there you
 ml> haven't
 ml>> picked yet :P :lol:

 EH>> I'm not picking nits, I'm pointing out your lack of honesty.

 ml> ORLY? you must be psychic... tell us what the winning powerball numbers
 ml> for tomorrow's drawing, please ;) while you're at it, tell us how you
 ml> know that i'm being dishonest...

It's easy to see your dishonesty. No psychic powers needed.

 EH>> You make a claim that there was no evidence on the internet WRT
 EH>> the BHO administration awarding BP a safety award just prior to
 EH>> the rig blowing up.

 ml> no i did not... stop putting words in my mouth... in fact, stop
 ml> interpreting what i write and twisting it into something i didn't state...

Yes, you did. You made the claim that you could find nothing, implying that
it wasn't there. When Ross Cassell and I both pointed out to you that it
was easy to find, you started equivocating.

 EH>> When it was pointed out to you that there is plenty on the
 EH>> internet about it, you start playing games.

 ml> you loose, dude... thanks for playing!

You lost before you started... dude.

 ml>> [trim]

 EH>>>>> My heroes? Who would that be?

 EH>>>> You failed to answer this. Who is/are my hero[es]?

 ml>>> no, i didn't "fail to answer" it, ed... i specifically
 ml>>> ignored it... you know who your heros are and you know
 ml>>> those that you pattern yourself after...

 EH>>> No, I don't know who you think my heroes are or who you think I
 EH>>> pattern myself after.

 ml> i didn't say anything about who i thought your heros were... in fact, i
 ml> don't care who they are because it is patently obvious that you can't
 ml> read or understand plain english... is it your third or fourth language?

You continue to equivocate. You claimed I had heroes and that I was
patterning my life after them. I say I don't have any heroes. You obviously
think I have some hero(es), but refuse to elaborate. This is yet more
evidence of your dishonesty.

 ml>> i didn't say anything about who i thought your heros are/were... again
 ml>> you try to put words in my mouth... give it up, eh?

 EH>> ROFLOL!

 EH>> You made the claim, back it up. You are the one claiming I have
 EH>> heroes and that I emulate them. Either you had some idea who these
 EH>> supposed heroes are, or you're just shooting in the dark.

 ml> you made the claim that i'm being dishonest... you made the claim that i
 ml> stated there was no evidence on the internet of an award given by the
 ml> current administration to BP for that oil well... how's about you start
 ml> off by backing those up ;)

I have backed up every claim I have made. You, OTOH, have been going in
circles trying to keep from backing up any of your claims.

 ml>> [trim]

 EH>>>> Then, what was your point about the BHO
 EH>>>> administration being busy running the country?

 ml>>> hummm... could one part of it be that it is the same as
what others in
 ml>>> that position have done before him? think about it... you're a bright
 ml>>> boy... i'm sure you'll figure it out one day :P

 EH>>> And here we have your usual ad hom.

 ml>> yawn... what ad hom? and what do you mean by
"usual"?? you definitely
 ml>> have me confused with someone else...

 EH>> Your use of the term "bright boy" and "I'm sure
you'll figure it
 EH>> out someday" in an attempt to call my intelligence into question.

 ml> i wasn't calling your intelligence into question... you are pretty
 ml> "bright" aren't you? you did graduate from high school, didn't you?
 ml> you're obviously bright enough to carry on some degree of discussion so
 ml> why are you taking that praise in such a negative manner?

Your use of the term wasn't a sign of your acknowledgement of my intelligence.

 ml> as for you "figuring it out someday", surely that is
possible... you may
 ml> not know the answer today or tomorrow but you'll find it/one
 ml> "someday"... you're not stupid or uneducated... in fact,
you are rather
 ml> bright and knowledgable... so why all the negativity? surely it isn't
 ml> due to ignorance...

Keep twisting and spinning...

 EH>> You think you are clever, but you really aren't.

 ml> sounds like you have a personal problem there ;)

That's right, make your behavior my problem. Typical.

 EH>>> You make a comment and when challenged, you act like you're too
 EH>>> smart to deal with such questions. Either back up your claims, or
 EH>>> crawl back under the rock you came from.

 EH>> 

 ml> awww... you didn't like that?

I thought it was childish. "Like" has nothing to do with it.

Ed

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