ml>> so what? what's wrong with that if someone wants to write their
 ml>> life story or parts of it???

 RC>> When it gets used against them or

 ml> so Don't Do That! ;)

 RC> Its human nature.. It is more incumbent on him or anyone else to be
 RC> careful where they spill their gunpowder.

as it is for you to be careful where you toss your lit matches and cigarette butts ;)

 RC>> becomes unbelievable, boring or not germane to the discussion.

 ml> Hit The [Next] Key! ;)

 RC> I broke mine.. :-)

:lol: we do that from time to time, don't we? :lol:

 RC>> Only bleeding (bleating) hearts like yourself would play fast and
 RC>> lose with such trivia in a written messaging network. Probably
 RC>> the worst form of social communication there is...

 ml> :lol:

 ml> /me wonders when he became a "bleeding (bleating) heart"?

 RC> When you drank the left wing koolaid ?? ;)

there was koolaid? what left wing? for that matter, where's "the
center"? isn't he supposed to be taking a foul shot or two? :P

 ml>> have you ever considered why he is telling the truth and putting
 ml>> in so much detail???

 RC>> or perhaps the mud (shit) gets deeper or thicker?

 ml> you didn't answer the question... have you put yourself in his shoes
 ml> and truly thought about the things that might bring one to do as he
 ml> has done? in other words, think about what you are saying or doing and
 ml> why you are doing such... then decide if it is truly necessary...

 RC> You are missing my point, that is regardless of what I have done,
 RC> where I have been, I do not share my entire lifetime experiences in
 RC> *any* written forum. 

no, i'm very aware of that point... we have known each other for what? 10
to 15 years now? ;)

 RC> As far as what he has done, they were circumstances in which he 
 RC> placed himself in, to that end, it doesnt matter what the road 
 RC> was, only the destination.. 

i don't know that anyone has written/spoken of any destination... as i
recall, only the road/path travelled has been being discussed...

 RC> I am reminded of the punishment, Steelers Quarterback, Big Ben
 RC> Roethlisberger put himself in, he was accused of sexual misdeeds
 RC> last year, did not get charged. Again this years off season,
 RC> similiar accusation, again not getting charged. He is getting sued
 RC> and the NFL suspended him 4 to 6 games. He was suspended for
 RC> putting himself in the positions he did this year and last year to
 RC> be accused of sexual misdeeds.
 RC> Now in context, all the stories we have heard, wrt Wayne, amounts
 RC> to one placing themselves in a position to be in the situations he
 RC> found himself in. 

hummm...

 RC> The devil made him do it, doesnt necessarily wash.

she sure gets around when she /should/ be doing the washing, though :)

 RC>> Its called contrasting Mark, when establishing or defending a
 RC>> position, hence why Wayne should not have openned those doors..

 ml> standing out here looking in and watching for all these years, what i
 ml> see is bullying and/or attempts to raise one's self higher by putting
 ml> others down...

 RC> and how quickly you forget the Holy Wars you have watched, partook
 RC> in, over the years, lets go back in time and point vindictive
 RC> fingers at the OS2 and Windows echoes, hell remember Z1_ROUTING..
 RC> 

HAHAHAHAHA... i won't ever forget them or any of the others i've been
involved in... especially when it comes to tech stuff like many of those
skirmishes and/or "battles" encompassed :)

 RC>> and why havent you told us "all there is to know"??

 ml> who says that i haven't?

 RC> Because I dont know your street address and the names of your
 RC> teachers and other people in your life.

mmmm... i don't know my teachers' names, either... as for other people in
my life, you actually do know many of them from right here in fidonet ;)
street address? arent' streets those wide flat paths made out of concrete
or petroleum residue?

 RC>> Well I was Judged and convicted by Wayne because I didnt take his
 RC>> angle about the Iraq war, among other things from Dubya.

 ml> you don't mention the snide and sideways comments that were made on
 ml> both sides, either... those, by themselves, were antagonizing and
 ml> tweaking the other individual and were specifically designed to...
 ml> someone started it by it seems that no one has the balls or desire to
 ml> be the better man and finish it by simply stopping...

 RC> I am only relating the background of what soured me on Wayne, but I
 RC> have seen him dish it out as good as he has had to take it.

as have i but likely not as much as you have done... FLAME and similar
venues have long resided in a "blacklist" of echos on my
system... attempts at areafixing them used to result in an automated reply
that basically stated "are you nucking futs?!!?" :lol: the times
that i did participate in FLAME i did from other systems ;)

 RC> There are people whom seem to think that if they toss out a few
 RC> URL's, that others have to all of a sudden start thinking as they
 RC> do.

what a boring world this would be if that were true...

 RC>> You tell me I shouldnt be judging him, why is he allowed to judge
 RC>> me?

 ml> i'm not saying that he is allowed to do such... IIRC, i wrote to both
 ml> of you several years back about this same thing and specifically
 ml> stated that at least one of you could out do the other by being the
 ml> better man and simply stopping the shit slinging...

 RC> In case you forgot, I have tried being civil to him, but he usually
 RC> throws in the Iraq war crap, because he has megalomaniac tendencies
 RC> when it comes to viewpoints.

oh well... ya wanna borrow my [NEXT] key some time? :P :lol:

)\/(ark