ml>> but i'm not arguing :P :lol:

 EH>> How old are you?

 ml> old enough to have retired from the USAF before i turned 40 and have
 ml> four grandchildren...

 EH> You certainly don't act it. You act like you are in your teens. 

now you see what i was seeing when i caught up on the 200+ echos my system
carries for fidonet ;)

 ml> how old are you?

 EH> Old enough to be looking at my 40 HS reunion soon.

i hear ya! i went to too many HS' due to moving about so i don't get
anything like reunion notices and the like... heck, some social networking
sites won't even let you choose your proper school because it merged with
another... i've written them to inquire about adding the original as a
standalone option and they point to the existing one... i respond that i
didn't go to that other school nor the mixed/joined one... that they merged
is one thing but trying to make folk say that they went to "A-B
HS" when they went to "A HS" and "B HS" was
"over there for sports competitions" is another...

that'd be tantamount to forcing Yale (or Harvard) folks choose (fictional)
"Harvard-Yale University" when they went to Yale or Harvard...

damned young'uns don't understand school rivalries like we used to ;)

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 EH>> I don't pretend to know all the dynamics of trying to stem the flow
 EH>> of an oil gusher a mile under the sea.

 ml> why should that be a requirement for coming up with an idea that might
 ml> help the stem the flow of material from that hole in the ground?? i've
 ml> definitely not seen that listed as a requirement... have you??

 EH> It certainly is a requirement for workable ideas. 

say what? having a piece of sheepskin on the wall is a requirement for a
workable idea to stop the flow of oil? if that's the case, then it is easy
enough to fulfill... deity knows there's numerous diploma and degree
spammers out there who will sell ya a piece of sheepskin in a heartbeat...

 EH> The pressures down there are extreme plus they have to use remote 
 EH> unmanned underwater rovers to do all the mechanical work. Their 
 EH> diamond saw was stuck on one of the pipes and now they aren't sure 
 EH> it's even working now that it's free.

yes, i watched that via the live feed...

i don't doubt that some knowledge of the pressures and other things being
run into would be a benefit but geez, these guys don't seem to have it all
together even with their sheepskins... no one has ever had to work at these
pressures so this is a learning experiance for all anyway... as far as
having a sheepskin as a requirement or qualification goes, one can wear it
as a loincloth for all the good they seem to be doing at the moment...

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 EH>> There you go with that high opinion again. You really 
 EH>> should get help.

 ml> consider this as my therapy, then :P ;)

 EH> You need serious therapy.

but but but... where's your sheepskin, doc?

 ml> oh wait! are you telling me that i should "get help" as 
 ml> in getting some others to come in and join the fray?

 EH> No, you need professional help.

there are professional shit slingers, ya know... i'll make a phone call :P :lol:

 ml> then the question comes to mind of "what are your qualifications that
 ml> enable you to tell me in need to seek some sort of assitance for some
 ml> problem that you think i have?" that also brings the question
of "what
 ml> qualifications do you have to determine that i (may) have a problem??"

 EH> It's just an observation.

and one highly limited to a tiny section of glass or plastic surrounded by
a plastic bezel ;) too bad you can't really see or get to know me like
that... oh well... yer still learnin' ain'cha? ah no ah iz ever day... it
bees much fun, to! :lol:

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 ml>> i guess we can start calling you thomas or tommie or some such, then...

 EH>> Whatever makes you happy.

 ml> that surely won't do it... FWIW: the reference to
"thomas" was in the
 ml> manner of "doubting thomas" as in "you sure are a
doubting thomas" ;)

 EH> I couldn't care less why you thought it was relevant.

"couldn't care less" or "could care less"?? one of
those phrases means quite the opposite of what most folk think it does when
they mistakenly use it in place of the other ;)

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 ml> where has that been stated by my writtings? i can tell you... no
 ml> where... maybe you could try another tactic? possibly one that has some
 ml> bearing on what really happened? are you psychic?

 EH> You may have tried hard to cover up the fact that you didn't do a
 EH> search, but it is blatantly obvious from looking at the fact that
 EH> it took only seconds to find citation with the simplest of search
 EH> terms.

terms that you chose to use... obviously they were not the ones i chose to
use... that or our search settings are highly different from each other...
do you leave the pr0n filter on or turn it off?

it doesn't matter now, does it? the info is available and easily at hand...
do you always argue for the sake of arguing like this? ;)

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 EH>> I'm not picking nits, I'm pointing out your lack of honesty.

 ml> ORLY? you must be psychic... tell us what the winning powerball numbers
 ml> for tomorrow's drawing, please ;) while you're at it, tell us how you
 ml> know that i'm being dishonest...

 EH> It's easy to see your dishonesty. No psychic powers needed.

then you are as blind as the proverbial bat... i have no reason not to be
honest and, quite frankly, i cannot stand a liar so give it up...

 EH>> You make a claim that there was no evidence on the internet WRT
 EH>> the BHO administration awarding BP a safety award just prior to
 EH>> the rig blowing up.

 ml> no i did not... stop putting words in my mouth... in fact, stop
 ml> interpreting what i write and twisting it into something i didn't
 ml> state...

 EH> Yes, you did. You made the claim that you could find nothing,

that was not a claim... that was a fact... the terms i used resulted in
nothing related to BP that i could easily see...

 EH> implying that it wasn't there. 

that's your own stupidity and/or ignorance sticking its foot in your
mouth... i never implied such and neither did my writen words... you put
that implication there with your interpretation which should never have
been done in the first place...

do you use a left or right handed spinmaster?

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 EH>> You made the claim, back it up. You are the one claiming I have
 EH>> heroes and that I emulate them. Either you had some idea who these
 EH>> supposed heroes are, or you're just shooting in the dark.

 ml> you made the claim that i'm being dishonest... you made the claim that i
 ml> stated there was no evidence on the internet of an award given by the
 ml> current administration to BP for that oil well... how's about you start
 ml> off by backing those up ;)

 EH> I have backed up every claim I have made. 

no you haven't... not with physical verifiable data and evidence... you loose again!

 EH> You, OTOH, have been going in circles trying to keep from backing 
 EH> up any of your claims.

nope... wrong again... you obviously don't know what i'm doing and you're
stuck in some mode that won't let you step back far enough to see it...
sorry 'bout that...

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 EH>> Your use of the term "bright boy" and "I'm sure
you'll figure it
 EH>> out someday" in an attempt to call my intelligence into question.

 ml> i wasn't calling your intelligence into question... you are pretty
 ml> "bright" aren't you? you did graduate from high school, didn't you?
 ml> you're obviously bright enough to carry on some degree of discussion so
 ml> why are you taking that praise in such a negative manner?

 EH> Your use of the term wasn't a sign of your acknowledgement of my
 EH> intelligence. 

and you know this because you used your psychic powers again? you are
transposing yourself onto my writings and hearing/seeing what you would
have said/done if you had written them... Don't do that! you are not me
and, thank the deities, i am not you... read what is written, only what is
written... do not interpret, do not embellish, do not add or remove
words... read them exactly as they are written and take them at face
value... you are not the only one who has this problem... many folk do... i
see it all the time when someone takes afront at another's words... in many
cases, it is due to cultural background differences... in many other cases,
it is due to language differences... in your case, i'd have to say that it
is you getting inside your own head while attempting to get inside mine...
that ain't gonna work and you won't, i repeat, won't find your way inside
my head or thought processes...

 ml> as for you "figuring it out someday", surely that is
possible... you may
 ml> not know the answer today or tomorrow but you'll find it/one
 ml> "someday"... you're not stupid or uneducated... in fact,
you are rather
 ml> bright and knowledgable... so why all the negativity? surely it isn't
 ml> due to ignorance...

 EH> Keep twisting and spinning...

you're the one with the spinmaster... maybe you need to reverse the plug so
it'll spin in the correct direction??

 EH>> You think you are clever, but you really aren't.

 ml> sounds like you have a personal problem there ;)

 EH> That's right, make your behavior my problem. Typical.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... dude! you kill me!! i'm not making my behavior your
problem... i'm making YOUR behavior YOUR problem...
GetItTogether! :ROTFLMAO:

 EH>>> You make a comment and when challenged, you act like you're too
 EH>>> smart to deal with such questions. Either back up your claims, or
 EH>>> crawl back under the rock you came from.

 EH>> 

 ml> awww... you didn't like that?

 EH> I thought it was childish. "Like" has nothing to do with it. 

maybe you'd prefer something like this?

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