-=> Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 08 Nov 09  23:38:38 <=-

 > Especially mine, which is FROM the good ol' less bloated days

 MK> Yep.  Definetly a throwback on a throwback.  ;-)

I resemble that remark  ;)

 > Can't you use DOSbox?

 MK> Not sure.  I did use dosemu briefly on the first linux install on ye
 MK> ol' 486 while I got back into the swing of using a Unix based box
 MK> again after about a hiatus from that world of about 5 years.  It
 MK> wasn't that much of a hiatus given that I was using a c compiler on
 MK> dos to get it to 'emulate' Unix but it wasn't actually a Unix system so
 MK> I call it a hiatus. DOS emulation lasted about a week or two.  I
 MK> haven't been tempted since. Now that I am doing EVERYTHING 64 bit I
 MK> doubt very much I could even if I wanted to.  I think it would be
 MK> wiser to keep everything native and just output compatible files for
 MK> the rest of the world that still hasn't wised up.  ;-) 

Reason I asked, I've been seeing others talking about still using DOSbox
in their *nix systems... and at least some seem to be using 64bit as
well, so I thought it might be an option for you.

 > and they are all telnet, not dialup

 MK> With hacked zmodem capabilties.
 
Maybe.  I'm not a wizard, I don't know the details... ;)

 > only use telnet.

 MK> Which telnet?  None of the unix based ones use zmodem.  Never did,
 MK> probably never will. 
 MK> Anyhow I still haven't tried the zmodem here but definetly would need
 MK> to hack telnet or use the perl scripting idea to weazle it in.  I have
 MK> yet to see the usual telnet suspects work with any DOS based protocols
 MK> without hacking. 

My Wizard wrote TelNetPort after the one I was using didn't work right
with zmodem uploads.  I could shoot you a copy if you were interested,
and it might be available at Mark Lewis's Waldo's Place USA BBS, too. 
It's a DOS program, though.

 > By the time DOS is set to die,

 MK> The last person to say that to me was around five years ago and my
 MK> response to him was, "simply ghosts who have yet to recongnize their
 MK> own demise."  How new is your newest application on that box and how
 MK> old is that box?  I would be willing to bet that you couldn't get that
 MK> to run on a modern box. 

As I said, I don't do the details... the Wizard does those... ;)  And I
bet he COULD get anything here to run on a modern box, when the time
comes... well, except maybe some of the games.  Although, I think any
that would bite the dust now, already have, when we went from the 286 to
this (post math co-processor problem) pentium, with it's faster speeds. 
I think the games I play now don't relate to computer speed any more. 

 > What more do I need...?

 MK> Absolutely nothing.  However if and when the time comes my OS will
 MK> install and run on machines yet to be built as well as ones that are
 MK> already built.  Also I do have a 32 bit version of the same so it
 MK> could easily run on a 486 albiet a heck of alot more slowly and not
 MK> much promise of a future.  I doubt you can make the same claim. 

I'd have to refer you to the Wizard for that... but he's been playing
with this for years, too, and figured out a way to keep DOS the primary
OS even after Win95 and Win98...  and could probably find a way to just
uninstall whatever OS came with and put one of these on that box.

 > The death of BBSing has been touted for years, but it's still
 > chugging along

 MK> Somewhat.  I still prefer them and will keep using them if it is
 MK> possible to. 

And that's a major reason they still exist... we are still using them as
long as it's possible...  :)

ttyl    neb

... "Pieces of Nine".."Pieces of Nine"...sorry...Parroty error!
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