From: "Robert Comer" 

Interesting.  But I was hoping for a clearly better. 

- Bob Comer


"Paul Ranson"  wrote in message
news:3de64df2$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> I think all the basic video chipset stuff comes from XFree86 for both BSD
> and Linux. There's probably some interesting architecture to understand in
> there...
>
> It'll be essentially similar in both Mandrake and Red Hat, although I can
> believe that one will handle it better than the other.
>
> Paul
>
> "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
> news:3de64392$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> > > Okay, this clearly stinks way worse than Mandrake, so I'm just going
to
> > call
> > > this a failure and not touch RedHat again in two or three years. A few
> > years
> > > ago I had similar problems with RedHat, but I thought it would have
> gotten
> > > better in that respect - obviously I was wrong.
> >
> > It has gotten better, just not better enough, and all the distributions
> can
> > have this problem with some chipsets...
> >
> > Video config is probably the biggest problem with Linux.  I wonder if
any
> of
> > the BSD's are any better...
> >
> > - Bob Comer
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Antti Kurenniemi" 
wrote in message
> > news:3de641ca$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> > > Soooo,
> > >
> > >
> > > went and bought a RH package ('cause I wanted the manuals in print),
and
> > > started installing. We had an extra Dell box, so I used that one. In
> goes
> > > the first cd, and installation starts. The installer recognized the
> > monitor
> > > (flat panel) perfectly, and display adapter (intel 854 something)...
and
> > > then said "no display mode available".
> > >
> > > Okey-dokey, ditch the panel and start over again with another, more
> > "normal"
> > > monitor. Install went fine, again it recognized the monitor (iiyama
> > > something) correctly, and installed everything.
> > >
> > > But then the display was set so what looked like 640x480 resolution,
> which
> > > was a bit difficult because the configuration window was higher than
> that,
> > > so the buttons were below the bottom of the screen. Anyone seen that
> > before
> > > (hint: it has been bothering Windows for ages)? Well, no problem,
right:
> > > just make the window smaller by dragging the top border down, and then
> > move
> > > the whole window up to get the buttons on screen.
> > >
> > > Bu wait! The window *cannot*be*resized*from*the*top*border!
> Unbelievable!
> > > Who the fuck thought that I could not resize that windo, huh? What a
> > genious
> > > idea.
> > >
> > > Well, anyways, I managed to move the window around to get the buttons.
> So,
> > > change the resolution and restart the x-window thing (wow, ain't that
a
> > > modern approach, having to restart the stupid thing), and hey presto -
> the
> > > same low resolution again.
> > >
> > > So, changed it again, double-checking the settings, and restarted the
> > whole
> > > machine just to make sure. This time, the display comes up as
text-only,
> > > with an error message that is gibberish - none of the characters are
> > right.
> > > But there are two buttons, of which one has two and the other three
> > > characters, so those must be yes and no. Hit enter, hoping the
defaults
> > are
> > > okay, and bang! systems restarts and says it cannot start x-windows at
> > all.
> > >
> > > Okay, this clearly stinks way worse than Mandrake, so I'm just going
to
> > call
> > > this a failure and not touch RedHat again in two or three years. A few
> > years
> > > ago I had similar problems with RedHat, but I thought it would have
> gotten
> > > better in that respect - obviously I was wrong.
> > >
> > > In general, the distros need to become more uniform in support of
> > hardware,
> > > because this kind of nonsense really does not make Linux look good in,
> at
> > > least not in my books.
> > >
> > >
> > > Antti Kurenniemi
> > > (a bit tired, but still determined to get a working Linux installation
> > soon)
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

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