ml> what you have above... that was "way back" in the '60's and 70's at
 ml> least... during that time, the lines became blurred a bit and now we
 ml> have what we see today... FWIW: the same thing happened with the Torys
 ml> and the Whigs

 CH>  My raw definition was from that time as a matter of fact.
 CH>  Okay time to upgrade!

hehehe...

 CH>  'Whigs' is correct. Conscience nags I ought to look this up. I
 CH> once read the name was partly applied due to powered wigs popular
 CH> at the time but there might be something else..

 CH>  Here it is at Merriam-Webster online: Just as I second
 CH>  thought. Named after somebody. Number 3 applies to our topic. 

 CH> http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=whig+&x=13
 CH> &y=20 

 CH> Main Entry: Whig
 CH> Pronunciation: 'hwig, 'wig
 CH> Function: noun
 CH> Etymology: short for Whiggamore, member of a Scottish group that
 CH> marched to Edinburgh in 1648 to oppose the court party

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 CH> 3 : a member or supporter of an American political party formed
 CH> about 1834 in opposition to the Jacksonian Democrats, associated
 CH> chiefly with manufacturing, commercial, and financial interests,
 CH> and succeeded about 1854 by the Republican party

damn! look at that... started out already on the side of big business and
big money... 

 CH> I'm all for limiting the power of gummit over our personal lives
 CH> but on the other hand I'm also for limiting the power of Big
 CH> Business over our personal lives as well 

me, too... what one does after work is no one's business but their own as
long as they are not effected by it the next time they go to work...

 CH> and I thought Democrats are more for the latter?

i dunno... i think they should both put their noses where the sun doesn't shine O:)

 CH> The current GOP seems eager to promote control of not gummit in our
 CH> personal lives, but big business instead.

yep... i've heard it put like...

  take care of the business and the 
  business will take care of its people.

but we know how that works in most places, too...

)\/(ark