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echo: aust_modem
to: Mark Griffiths
from: David Drummond
date: 1996-12-02 06:29:59
subject: Re: USR and funny rules

Mark, at 22:29 on Nov 29 1996, you wrote to Peter Lane-Collett ...

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PL>> I do not think so. I tried a courier and had it set to 
PL>> answer after the second ring. It worked fine because the 
PL>> mailer actually causes the modem to answer not the modem 
PL>> itself. When testing I found that each "pair" of rings 
PL>> (ring-ring) is only detected as one ring. So ring-ring 
PL>> ring- ring is detected and reported as being 2 rings.

MG> All I can say is that in my case each ring-ring is reported 
MG> as 2 rings. Just watching the terminal screen shows:-

MG> RING
MG> (short pause)
MG> RING
MG> (long pause)
MG> RING
MG> (short pause)
MG> RING
MG> (long pause)
MG> etc

MG> Each ring comes up with each ring of the phone.  I can think 
MG> of 3 possibilites why this isn't the case for you.  One 
MG> possibility is that you are on a different type of exchange 
MG> which produces a different ring pattern, although this 
MG> doesn't seem likely from your explanation.  Another is that 
MG> you were using a Courier other than the V.everything or 
MG> otherwise the Courier may have had a different SDL loaded...  
MG> In this case it doesn't make any difference whether it is the 
MG> modem or the software which is actually being set to answer, 
MG> except that the software can be set to answer after only 1 
MG> ring which the modem cannot.

PL>> It is actually the phone devices that generates the ring 
PL>> pattern you hear. That's why you have to use certain types 
PL>> of phone with "multiple number" (distinctive ring) to hear 
PL>> the different ring tones.

MG> On the contrary, most phones ring with the pattern sent from 
MG> the exchange. The only types of phones that I can think of 
MG> that don't and consequently aren't compatible with 
MG> distinctive ring are those that regenerate the ring signal 
MG> such as cordless phones or novelty phones which play a tune 
MG> or strange sound instead of ringing.  PABXs are another 
MG> example of systems that regenerate the ring signal...  If 
MG> you were to probe the phone line with a voltmeter or CRO, you 
MG> would see the line voltage rise and fall with the phone 
MG> ringing.

Peter is using an Austel approved Courier DS etc wit the same SDL as mine.

Surely the S0 ring detection is when answering, not dialling out.

When I had my answer string set to three rings here in Binkley, the logs
showed ONLY the three rings incoming before it answered it (not 6 and not
1.5).  It took THREE Australian Ring-rings to answer the phone.

David
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