> ... maybe 
 > you could learn something from other recent activities 
 > where folkkept pushing and pushing and now see that the 
 > price paid is much  too high...

Are you referring to the verbal assault of one Janis Kracht via the
¨back-channel on probably the most sympathetic and popular RC in zone-2,
Sean ¨Rima, and got him so de-motivated/discouraged/disgusted that he
withdraw ¨from Fidonet in order to be safe from her abusing him?

Ward  

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