SA>>> Its also FULL DUPLEX (not like X2) and works on normal 
SA>>> analog lines.. it sounds better than X2 to me!..
DD>>> Do you honestly believe that a full duplex protocol that is 
DD>>> faster than V.3 on normal voice lines is going to be MORE 
DD>>> robust?

SA>> Its more I HOPE :)

DD> How can that be so?  If the line's bandwith won't support 33,600 how would 
DD> it support 56K?

By using a better and more robust encoding technique.  14400 was "the
end of the line, all the bandwidth's used up" only a short while ago. 
OTOH, the Nyquist bandwidth is _not_ infinite, and there will eventually be
limits - which we may even have already reached.   Russel Brooks' efforts
at 33.6k from vast distances may indicate otherwise, IMHO.

DD> I would suggest that if you don't ever see 33600, you'll never see 56000 
DD> either.

That regrettably is quite on the cards.  Cruddy lines remain cruddy lines. 
Silk purses do not come from Telstra sow's ears.

Regards,
Dave Hatch.

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