BG>> Stoppit Arthur, you're confusing me!  Please excuse my 
BG>> obvious ignorance, but how the hell can specifically 
BG>> different standardised tones or signals be used as 
BG>> substitutes for each other?  That's somewhat akin to 
BG>> suggesting that say V.32bis, V.FC, and V.34 are all 
BG>> identical, and interchangeable, is it not?

DH>> Nope - he's saying that each of those (seperate and 
DH>> distinct) protocols includes an approved and known "calling 
DH>> tone".   But Of Course, all of the blighters are different.   
DH>> Standards are wonderful - everyone has one.

AM> So that if you hear V.25 tones, you can assume it's a modem or 
AM> multifunction device, but if you hear T.30 CNG tones, you can assume 
AM> someone wants to send you a fax (-:.

Quite so.  Now, for the extra points and the Cupie doll, produce a method
of guaranteeing that a fax modem initialization on sending a -fax- falls
into category #2 reliably.   (For full credit, use the manufacturer's
nonexistent documentation to establish your method..:-)

Sigh.  Forward the information goat track...

Regards,
Dave Hatch.

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