> In a message of 10 Jun 94 david nugent wrote to Michael Stapleton:

 > dn> and their tools development is already using an beta compiler release
 > dn> with 32-bit capability, C++ exceptions, rtti and templates with the
 > dn> same finely-tuned and very aggressive optimizer that
 > Borland's compiler

 > I take it that you are talking about Visual C++.

Yes. VC++ 2.0.


 > Have you used it and how do you feel it compares with Borland C++?

I don't use Borland C++ under MSDOS (or in fact any compiler or development
tool under MSDOS these days :-) - I develop even DOS software under OS/2).
But I personally have never used VC++ (any version) either on my own system
and I don't like any of the Windows based development systems I've seen in
any case.

There's only one application builder I've ever seen (specifically
Guidelines which runs under OS2) that's been worth anything more than lip
service - most are junk and produce junk code imho, including AppWizard
etc. I've only seen Borland's system demonstrated and never attempted to
use it, but unless it has some startling features which for some reason
weren't included in the demonstration, it seems pretty much in the same
class.

I guess a beginner would like it since it would save a little tedious work,
but there's really nothing they do beyond resource manipulation which
cannot be done with a decent editor, a good set of editing macros and a
generous sprinkling of template code, and a decent resource editor.  This
setup adds the advantage in not being tied to specific class libraries and
methodologies, as are both Borland and Microsoft tools.

You have to also bear in mind that I'm not fond of IDEs either, but do
appreciate well a good/powerful editing system.  If you like IDEs, then
you'll probably like both or either I guess.


  regards,
  david

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