From: "Robert Comer" 

> I guess Antti hadn't known about the Ctrl-Alt-+ thing. I've only just
> remembered...

I have to be reminded about that one every time I need it, I don't know why
its so hard to remember.

What I want more of is refresh rate control...

- Bob Comer


"Paul Ranson"  wrote in message
news:3de689df{at}w3.nls.net...
> It works pretty well on my integrated 'Trident Blade Something' chip set,
> although it only seems able to use 4MB of the available 8. If you examine
> the log there's all sorts of conversation with the chip set and with the
> monitor to determine the available set of resolutions and colour depths.
>
> I guess Antti hadn't known about the Ctrl-Alt-+ thing. I've only just
> remembered...
>
> Paul
>
> "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
> news:3de67f0e$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> > Interesting.  But I was hoping for a clearly better. 
> >
> > - Bob Comer
> >
> >
> > "Paul Ranson"  wrote in message
> > news:3de64df2$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> > > I think all the basic video chipset stuff comes from XFree86 for both
> BSD
> > > and Linux. There's probably some interesting architecture to
understand
> in
> > > there...
> > >
> > > It'll be essentially similar in both Mandrake and Red Hat, although I
> can
> > > believe that one will handle it better than the other.
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > "Robert Comer" 
wrote in message
> > > news:3de64392$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> > > > > Okay, this clearly stinks way worse than Mandrake,
so I'm just
going
> > to
> > > > call
> > > > > this a failure and not touch RedHat again in two
or three years. A
> few
> > > > years
> > > > > ago I had similar problems with RedHat, but I
thought it would
have
> > > gotten
> > > > > better in that respect - obviously I was wrong.
> > > >
> > > > It has gotten better, just not better enough, and all the
> distributions
> > > can
> > > > have this problem with some chipsets...
> > > >
> > > > Video config is probably the biggest problem with
Linux.  I wonder
if
> > any
> > > of
> > > > the BSD's are any better...
> > > >
> > > > - Bob Comer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Antti Kurenniemi"
 wrote in message
> > > > news:3de641ca$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> > > > > Soooo,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > went and bought a RH package ('cause I wanted the manuals in
print),
> > and
> > > > > started installing. We had an extra Dell box, so I
used that one.
In
> > > goes
> > > > > the first cd, and installation starts. The
installer recognized
the
> > > > monitor
> > > > > (flat panel) perfectly, and display adapter (intel 854
something)...
> > and
> > > > > then said "no display mode available".
> > > > >
> > > > > Okey-dokey, ditch the panel and start over again
with another,
more
> > > > "normal"
> > > > > monitor. Install went fine, again it recognized the monitor
(iiyama
> > > > > something) correctly, and installed everything.
> > > > >
> > > > > But then the display was set so what looked like 640x480
resolution,
> > > which
> > > > > was a bit difficult because the configuration
window was higher
than
> > > that,
> > > > > so the buttons were below the bottom of the
screen. Anyone seen
that
> > > > before
> > > > > (hint: it has been bothering Windows for ages)?
Well, no problem,
> > right:
> > > > > just make the window smaller by dragging the top
border down, and
> then
> > > > move
> > > > > the whole window up to get the buttons on screen.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bu wait! The window *cannot*be*resized*from*the*top*border!
> > > Unbelievable!
> > > > > Who the fuck thought that I could not resize that
windo, huh? What
a
> > > > genious
> > > > > idea.
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, anyways, I managed to move the window around
to get the
> buttons.
> > > So,
> > > > > change the resolution and restart the x-window
thing (wow, ain't
> that
> > a
> > > > > modern approach, having to restart the stupid
thing), and hey
> presto -
> > > the
> > > > > same low resolution again.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, changed it again, double-checking the
settings, and restarted
> the
> > > > whole
> > > > > machine just to make sure. This time, the display
comes up as
> > text-only,
> > > > > with an error message that is gibberish - none of
the characters
are
> > > > right.
> > > > > But there are two buttons, of which one has two
and the other
three
> > > > > characters, so those must be yes and no. Hit
enter, hoping the
> > defaults
> > > > are
> > > > > okay, and bang! systems restarts and says it cannot start
x-windows
> at
> > > > all.
> > > > >
> > > > > Okay, this clearly stinks way worse than Mandrake,
so I'm just
going
> > to
> > > > call
> > > > > this a failure and not touch RedHat again in two
or three years. A
> few
> > > > years
> > > > > ago I had similar problems with RedHat, but I
thought it would
have
> > > gotten
> > > > > better in that respect - obviously I was wrong.
> > > > >
> > > > > In general, the distros need to become more
uniform in support of
> > > > hardware,
> > > > > because this kind of nonsense really does not make
Linux look good
> in,
> > > at
> > > > > least not in my books.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Antti Kurenniemi
> > > > > (a bit tired, but still determined to get a working Linux
> installation
> > > > soon)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

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