-=> Quoting William Elliot to Clarence Hogan <=-
 >>> Clarence Hogan on Universes 
 
 WE> That which is the universe is ever persistent clarity of mind,
 WE> orderly yet elusive.  Chaotic the multiverse, perpetually random
 WE> confusion persistently intruding upon the universe.  For respite from
 WE> both is the nulliverse, the never present, perceivable only at its
 WE> gateway transitions of sleep, death, birth, unconsciousness, and
 WE> trance.  Clarifying all of this, however, creates yet additional
 WE> confusion. 
 
 CH> Does not the universe represent perfect harmony and clarity 
 CH> of mind?  Has it not been made to operate by the only perfect
 CH> equations known to man, viz., mathematics, for is it not a 
 CH> known fact that thoughts in words can lie, but thoughts in 
 CH> figures cannot lie?  So in consideration of this, wherein is 
 CH> the universe elusive?
 WE> No, there are pockets of chaos or as you might put it hell.  
 
 Hummmmm, ok, now can you describe the pockets of chaos or this
 hell that you believe I might believe in?
 WE> No,
 WE> mathematics doesn't rule the universe, it describes only a portion of
 WE> the universe to which we can apply mathematics.  
 
 If you say so, but you sure could have fooled me for I thought that
 mathematics explained it all!
 WE> The universe often
 WE> eludes mathematical description, economics being an example.  But so
 WE> also sociology, psychology, ethics, aesthetics elude mathematical
 WE> analysis. 
 
 And just how do we go about applying these other attributes to the
 universe itself?  Or do you consider the universe to be a thinking
 entity?
  
 CH> As to multiverse and nulliverse, please give a definition for
 CH> these two words and then we may possibly proceed from there!
 
 WE> The multiverse is just too dang confusing to define while the
 WE> nulliverse has been nullified by it's very nature.  
 
 Hummmmm, since you have not defined multiverse and nulliverse as of
 yet, I would be hard put to make any speculation as to the validity
 of your statement here!
 WE> As you believe in
 WE> life after death, that death isn't death, then you deny that you can
 WE> experience the ultimate nulliverse. 
 
 How so do I believe in life after death or that death isn't death?
 Since I have yet to comprehend the term nulliverse, how can I possibly
 deny that which I do not fully understand?
 WE> ... Life after death?  No way, if
 WE> you're still alive you haven't died yet. 
 Now a truer statement could not be said!  :)  For when you are dead,
 you are just like Rover, you are dead all over!
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... Once upon a time there was no time and so it shall be again!  :)
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