>> > my mom should take a page from how to create that turkey gravy next
>> > thanksgiving.. mom's is pale and mild... it tastes fine, but
>> > Martha's was
>> > the deep, righ golden brown that just screams succulent and
>> > savory... I was  much impressed.
>>
>> Depends on what Mom is using to add moisture -- some use too much canned
>> broth.
>
>Nothing at all... just pan drippings. I suspect that if she used some
savory
>vegetables at the bottom of the pan she'd get a better color/richness
>
That definitely improves flavour

>> And Martha is probably adding a rou of browned flour as well (one of the
>> secrets).
>
>I don't remember precisely. I want to say she didn't... purely because I
can
>envision so much of what I saw, but don't remember a thing about a roux...
>but memory is certainly no guarantee of anything these days.
>
I thought she did, but then I've been wrong before

>> Me? Pan drippings. Pan drippings only (e.g. no canned broth) if I can get
>> away with it; deglazed with white wine and thickened with buttermilk
>> pancake mix. Ooooh, even Russ likes it.
>
>mmm, sounds good :)
>
I like pandrippings - but since I roast vegetables under the bird, and put
some of the stuffing on the bottom with the vegetables, too, you end up with
a brown and flavourful gravy without having to add any pancake mix - I
thicken with arrowroot slurry (gives the same sheen as fat without the fat)
and deglaze with the water the non-roasted vegetables cooked in

>> > yeah, I can live with her sense of style for the most part... unless
>> > it gets too frou frouey, complicated or it's all in pastels...

>> > I don't like pastels
>>
>> The Araconda (sp) chicken egg colors she uses are nice. Not too dark, but
>> natural.
>
>Ok, that's different... natural I like even though a lot of it borders on
>"pastel" but only (to me) in the sense that they are
"light" colors.
>I like faded "dusty" colors, but that doesn't mean they're pastel.
>
I like clear colours, strong colours and jewel tones - but that doesn't mean
I dislike pastelss as long as there's not too much, and they're clear
colours, not muted. What I dislike are muddy colours, dusty colours "washed
with a pair of dirty jeans" colours and dark, dreary, rainy day colours
>>
>> And you can't diss frou frou if you're a fan of Christopher Lowell =Look=
>> That man is over the top.
>
>LOL!! I *know*! :) But a lot of stuff I like -- like when he does room
>make-overs. I'm mainly looking at furniture placement, colors, textures..
>not so much *things* though because he packs enough stuff for 5 rooms into
>the space of a closet. I couldn't live with that much stuff.

I must say I do like space to move about without cracking my shins

> I like the way
>he encourages ppl to do what they like and what feels good to them... he
>doesn't come off all Design God-dish to me.

I think I would like that

> I like his color-sense too... he
>likes the rich colors like terracotta, as do I. But I just want to sccream
>when I see 900 yards of fabric in every room,

That would make me scream, too.

>and 500 seating arrangements
>(who has that many ppl over like that anymore!?)

er . . . um - did you happen to notice how many couches and chairs were in
my living room in the brief moment you saw it? Would it surprise you to know
that there's often not enough places for people to sit and some end up on
the floor?

> not to mention all the
>"merchandising" everywhere ... with no purpose other than to
collect dust.

I wouldn't like that

>But for the most part -- I can look at one of his rooms, and after mentally
>stipping it of (bare minimum) half the stuff in it think... yeah, I like
>this. I'd have it in my house. (or - I'd try this, or that, or put this
with
>that because it oddly works when you think it won't...) But allof these
>shows use WAY too damned much particle board and MDF....

It's cheap

>so those parts of
>the show are tedious, but the wall treatments and shows on using
>colors/fabrics etc.. those are pretty cool.
>
>
Interesting. Evidently this show doesn't make it to Canada. I'll have to ask
about it
>
>
Laurie curious Phoenix
>

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