From: "Paul Ranson" 

It works pretty well on my integrated 'Trident Blade Something' chip set,
although it only seems able to use 4MB of the available 8. If you examine
the log there's all sorts of conversation with the chip set and with the
monitor to determine the available set of resolutions and colour depths.

I guess Antti hadn't known about the Ctrl-Alt-+ thing. I've only just remembered...

Paul

"Robert Comer"  wrote in message
news:3de67f0e$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> Interesting.  But I was hoping for a clearly better. 
>
> - Bob Comer
>
>
> "Paul Ranson"  wrote in message
> news:3de64df2$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> > I think all the basic video chipset stuff comes from XFree86 for both
BSD
> > and Linux. There's probably some interesting architecture to understand
in
> > there...
> >
> > It'll be essentially similar in both Mandrake and Red Hat, although I
can
> > believe that one will handle it better than the other.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
> > news:3de64392$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> > > > Okay, this clearly stinks way worse than Mandrake, so
I'm just going
> to
> > > call
> > > > this a failure and not touch RedHat again in two or
three years. A
few
> > > years
> > > > ago I had similar problems with RedHat, but I thought
it would have
> > gotten
> > > > better in that respect - obviously I was wrong.
> > >
> > > It has gotten better, just not better enough, and all the
distributions
> > can
> > > have this problem with some chipsets...
> > >
> > > Video config is probably the biggest problem with Linux.  I wonder if
> any
> > of
> > > the BSD's are any better...
> > >
> > > - Bob Comer
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Antti Kurenniemi"
 wrote in message
> > > news:3de641ca$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> > > > Soooo,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > went and bought a RH package ('cause I wanted the
manuals in print),
> and
> > > > started installing. We had an extra Dell box, so I used
that one. In
> > goes
> > > > the first cd, and installation starts. The installer
recognized the
> > > monitor
> > > > (flat panel) perfectly, and display adapter (intel 854
something)...
> and
> > > > then said "no display mode available".
> > > >
> > > > Okey-dokey, ditch the panel and start over again with
another, more
> > > "normal"
> > > > monitor. Install went fine, again it recognized the
monitor (iiyama
> > > > something) correctly, and installed everything.
> > > >
> > > > But then the display was set so what looked like
640x480 resolution,
> > which
> > > > was a bit difficult because the configuration window
was higher than
> > that,
> > > > so the buttons were below the bottom of the screen.
Anyone seen that
> > > before
> > > > (hint: it has been bothering Windows for ages)? Well, no problem,
> right:
> > > > just make the window smaller by dragging the top border down, and
then
> > > move
> > > > the whole window up to get the buttons on screen.
> > > >
> > > > Bu wait! The window *cannot*be*resized*from*the*top*border!
> > Unbelievable!
> > > > Who the fuck thought that I could not resize that
windo, huh? What a
> > > genious
> > > > idea.
> > > >
> > > > Well, anyways, I managed to move the window around to get the
buttons.
> > So,
> > > > change the resolution and restart the x-window thing (wow, ain't
that
> a
> > > > modern approach, having to restart the stupid thing), and hey
presto -
> > the
> > > > same low resolution again.
> > > >
> > > > So, changed it again, double-checking the settings, and restarted
the
> > > whole
> > > > machine just to make sure. This time, the display comes up as
> text-only,
> > > > with an error message that is gibberish - none of the
characters are
> > > right.
> > > > But there are two buttons, of which one has two and the
other three
> > > > characters, so those must be yes and no. Hit enter, hoping the
> defaults
> > > are
> > > > okay, and bang! systems restarts and says it cannot
start x-windows
at
> > > all.
> > > >
> > > > Okay, this clearly stinks way worse than Mandrake, so
I'm just going
> to
> > > call
> > > > this a failure and not touch RedHat again in two or
three years. A
few
> > > years
> > > > ago I had similar problems with RedHat, but I thought
it would have
> > gotten
> > > > better in that respect - obviously I was wrong.
> > > >
> > > > In general, the distros need to become more uniform in support of
> > > hardware,
> > > > because this kind of nonsense really does not make
Linux look good
in,
> > at
> > > > least not in my books.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Antti Kurenniemi
> > > > (a bit tired, but still determined to get a working Linux
installation
> > > soon)
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

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