To: "'trekcreative{at}yahoogroups.com'" 
From: Jason Patten 
Reply-To: trekcreative{at}yahoogroups.com

Good Points.  Though the Bynars were connected to their central computer
and dependent on it, they Also were in pairs, and it was implied only
pairs. The Dellar can form a group of any size and consider AI life
equivalent to biological life.

Communal minds generally do fair badly in trek, just as AI do.  But star
Trek also has IDIC and my point with them is more to throw a Monkey wrench
into the Federation preconceptions about AI and challenge that view.


And you're right so far I haven't come up with ANY of their problems. They
do have their cake and eat it too.
 I need to sit down and figure that out.
Otherwise I'm gonna have a planet full of networked Mary Sue's.  (Scary
thought isn't it?)




-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Manno [mailto:joemanno{at}worldnet.att.net]
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 3:49 PM To: trekcreative{at}yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [trekcreative] Profile : Dellarian


A pair of questions.

One: Considering that we've already seen the Bynars (from early-season
TNG), are the Dellar really necessary? The integration you've mentioned in
your profile seems similar.

Two: It seems to me that one of the messages of Star Trek is that such
communal thinking DOESN'T work; something wonderful and spiritual is lost
in the hive mind. Thus, a beneficent race like the Dellar would be highly
unlikely, or even paradoxical. They violate one of the unwritten rules,
about which Jay just spoke in his recent essay. Though the Bynars do this
as well, they were portrayed as vulnerable because of their
communal/interactive consciousness.

The Dellar may not work, in my opinion, because they're a quintessential
"have your cake and eat it, too" race. They're communal when they
like and individuals at other times?

Just NOT workin', for me.





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