From: "Joe Barr" 



Hey, if you liked the Microsoft sponsored report from Aberdeen claiming
LinuLinux is less secure than Windows - probably written by Richard Shupak
 especially for all the stupid fucking morons that buy into MS sponsored
reports - you will love the (MS sponsored) IDC report proving that W2K is
cheaper than Linux.

Later today, reports revealing that Black is White, Up is Down, and Bill
Gates is an honest man will be offered at deep discounts for the mindless
idiots who believe Redmonian propaganda.

Don't miss out!!  Get some for Ronnie!!!



On Tue, 03 Dec 2002 08:32:18 +0000, Ronnie T. Mungo, Boy Genius wrote:

> Now you're getting my point, and why I needled ol' Joe. All he wants to
> do, it seems, is hurl invectives and four letter words. It seems he's
> more interested in turning people off to Linux than on to it. That
> manner will do nothing to sway minds.
>
> RTM, BG
>
>
> "Geo."  wrote in message
news:3debc7e7$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> "Ronnie T. Mungo, Boy Genius" 
wrote in message
>> news:3deb85e6$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>
>> > Rather strange. Either the numbers were right or wrong.
>>
>> It's all in how you count. For example I have people try to prove to me
> that
>> Linux is more secure than NT by quoting numbers for one distrib of
>> Linux without Apache or any other addons and then quoting numbers for
>> NT4 + W2K
> +
>> XP + W9x + IIS + Outlook Express + Internet Explorer and when I called
> them
>> on it they claimed "they all came from MS but Apache didn't come from
>> the Linux distrib group".
>>
>> It's far too easy to fudge the number counts without an exact
>> description
> of
>> what exploits they are counting.
>>
>> Also, do you count a trojan as an exploit? I mean if the user has to
>> run
> it
>> I could probably code up about a million exploits and really screw up
>> the counts.
>>
>> If you really want to discuss the Aberdeen Group's numbers, get a list
>> of what exploits they counted for each side and I'll be happy to review
>> it
> and
>> leave comments to try and give a fair count. My personal opinion is
>> that when you compare apples to apples the numbers are probably very
>> close to equal between one version of NT and one distrib of Linux.
>> Likewise if you add some stuff, Linux/BIND/Apache probably comes close
>> to NT/msDNS/IIS.
>>
>> Geo.
>>
>>
>>
>>

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