On 19 Sep 10, WAYNE CHIRNSIDE wrote to RICHARD HELM:
on the subject: family values 

 RH>> Shit like you want those deaths to be nothing.  You have nothing to
 RH>> lose, your welfare check will keep coming in and because of men and
 RH>> women like those serving you can fault their service freely.  If you
 RH>> were half a man you would be cheering for their success, instead you
 RH>> celebrate their deaths.

 WC> What success you halfwit?

I'd call success an Iraq that has a government that is some version of a
democracy.  I'd call success a government in Iraq where religion is
secondary to the people.  I'd call success in Iraq when an individual can
freely oppose Mohammed words and Islam and not fear being put to death for
that opposition.

 WC> Do  You define success as enriching big or and corporate America?

That may be what YOU see but I don't agree with that view.

 WC> That's all the phuck they're being maimed and dying for.

In YOUR opinion only.



 WC> So you call dying in the sand for nothing success you bastard?

See above, worm.  Ask those that have served and are serving.  Their
opinion of why they are placing their lives at risk don't fit your's.


 WC> I was on record before they were sent over there as being opposed to 
 WC> the war precisely because I knew from research the was no WMD or ties 
 WC> to Al Qaeda.

You lie.

 WC> No American serviceman or woman needed to die over in that hell.

They have viewed their mission is to move Iraq from "that hell."  Create
an environment where the people that live there can chose their own
government free from fear of that government.

 WC> Had there been fewer idiots like you there wouldn't have been all that
 WC> nneedless death.

You are the one that has labeled the deaths that you celebrate "needless."
You disgrace those deaths with your self-serving words.



 WC> You ass sitting at home safe and comfortable rooting
 WC> for troops caught in a civil war among some of the most
 WC> violent people in the world.

Are you out of your mind?  Of course I am rooting for those troops.  Only
a fucking idiot or a selfish bastard such as yourself wouldn't root for
them.  You ARE against the soldiers keeping your lazy ass safe and
comfortable in your hovel.  

 WC> It's not a damned football game you ass.

Then why do you keep acting like it is?

 WC> It's not making America safer.
 WC> That job was abandoned in Afganistan, never begun in Saudi Arabia
 WC> and now Pakistan ( our ally) has signed a peace accord with Al Qaeda 
 WC> militants. You have one phreaking perverted idea of what constitutes 
 WC> success. I was opposed to sending them.

You lie.  Again.

 WC> I want them back yesterday now they're there.
 WC> You think this is all going to work out peachy keen?

I don't think it will ever be peachy keen, anywhere.  YOU want any effort
by our soldiers to fail.  Their deaths you count as a victory for your lazy
ass.

 WC> You're stupid. 

Not wishing those men and women to fail is not stupid.

Richard 
 rlhelm{at}radiks.net
 http://rlhelm.home.radiks.net

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