Nolan was returning fire at Paul 
 about Unwarranted insult 
 PN> I'm not trying to suggest that we hurt any organization.  If the
 NP> But you also need to get the organizations attention.
 
 That's one of the reasons the NRA, as an example, has undergone a
 change over the last few years.  Witness the changes.  Damn sure ain't
 just for duck hunters any more.
 I submit it has a way to go.  I also suggest it won't _ever_ be as
 radical as I, or many of a pure second amendment ideological bent.
 PN> Third parties can have an effect.  But if I'm registered with party
 PN>a,  we can't expect party b, or c, to care what I want.  If the party
 PN>won't  see things my way, then I have to either choose a new party,
 PN>start my  own or give up.
 NP> I disagree.  If party A was top dog, but is suddenly finding its
 NP> members going away and joining parties B and C, party A is very much
 NP> going to care what happened, what I think, and why people are leaving
 NP> it.  Else party A is going to disappear.
 
 Oh?  Let's put this in real world terms.  Party "a" is the Republican
 party.  Now tell me how much it cares about what we think when we have
 a Dole for presidential candidate.
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